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[194.138.37.39]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h17-v6si762144ljj.0.2019.02.12.01.12.10 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Feb 2019 01:12:10 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of claudius.heine.ext@siemens.com designates 194.138.37.39 as permitted sender) client-ip=194.138.37.39; Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of claudius.heine.ext@siemens.com designates 194.138.37.39 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=claudius.heine.ext@siemens.com Received: from mail1.sbs.de (mail1.sbs.de [192.129.41.35]) by lizzard.sbs.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x1C9C903030027 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 12 Feb 2019 10:12:09 +0100 Received: from [139.25.69.181] (linux-ses-ext02.ppmd.siemens.net [139.25.69.181]) by mail1.sbs.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x1C9C92K002231; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 10:12:09 +0100 Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Issues, ToDo and Roadmap To: "Maxim Yu. Osipov" , isar-users References: <71b39226-c243-2fb9-5988-cbf081c7d486@ilbers.de> From: Claudius Heine Message-ID: <00a53485-81f3-1ac8-9649-00f04536f91a@siemens.com> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 10:12:09 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <71b39226-c243-2fb9-5988-cbf081c7d486@ilbers.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TUID: MLZL0IEPyFk6 Hi Maxim, On 11/02/2019 16.21, Maxim Yu. Osipov wrote: > Hi Claudius, > > On 2/11/19 11:19 AM, Claudius Heine wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I would like to open a discussion about how we could improve the >> organization of Isar in regards to the projects short, mid and long >> term goals e.g. annoyances to be fixed, features to be implemented and >> bigger designs to work towards. >> >> We currently only have two public ways of communication, one of which >> is not maintained. Those are the mailing list and the github issue >> tracker. >> >> Mailing lists are great for open discussions and patches, but is a >> pretty fast moving medium and old discussions are no longer looked at >> and even get forgotten at some point so it might be sensible to put >> the results of discussions somewhere more persistent, search and with >> state tracking. Like a ticket system, issue tracker or wiki... >> >> The github issue tracker of Isar is in a very sorry state. Some of >> those open issues are no longer applicable or already fixed. Maybe we >> could reactivate that and have some more moderators to keep that up to >> date? > > Totally agree. > Let's use issue tracker - it's very helpful. I would be, if it was maintained. Which is currently not the case. > > I encourage everybody to comment/revise the current issues (like Henning > did for https://github.com/ilbers/isar/issues/8). Well that issue is one of those that should be closed as WONTFIX or similar just as Henning commented half a year ago. I also don't really see myself a someone that should maintain those issues, since I don't even have permissions to close them. That is also IMO the maintainers or reporters job, since they should have the big picture or their specific issues in mind. But with just a quick look at some of them (skipping already discussed #8), many can be closed IMO. Or course that is just my perspective. I have no idea if it is solved to the reporters or maintainers satisfaction, but if it isn't they should at least comment on why it isn't. Closing those issues might trigger them to comment if the close was premature. Close #10 Allow cross-build for selected packages Close #11 Enable non-root building (WONTFIX, I don't see that happening anytime soon) Close #12 qemu: init 0 doesn't exit with qemuarm-jessie (WONTFIX, not sure why that is a isar issue) Close #14 bitbake: Multiconfig builds seem to be serialized (if that is still true, then that is a bitbake issue and needs to be fixed there not in isar) Close #15 Support AUTOREV in SRCREV (WONTFIX, that is a feature issue that is open for 1.5 years with no update, there seem to be no interest for this) Close #16 Jessie: Host configuration leakage around apt-get (WONTFIX, we don't use multistrap anymore) Close #17 wic does not find mkdosfs (FIXED, as commented by Henning half a year ago) Close #18 IMAGE_TYPE = "wic" (FIXED, as commented by Henning half a year ago) Close or Update #19 Consider testing with http_proxy Close #20 Override DISTRO_APT_SOURCE in local.conf? (no longer applicable AFAIK we now have DISTRO_APT_PREMIRRORS) Close #21 Add support for package version pinning (fixed AFAIK, DISTRO_APT_PREFERENCES) Close #27 bitbake: Consider reading bitbake's and project's config (fixed AFAIK, we don't use the bitbake.conf from bitbake but have our own) Close #28 Document bitbake.conf concatenation (fixed AFAIK, since we don't concatenate anymore) regards, Claudius -- DENX Software Engineering GmbH, Managing Director: Wolfgang Denk HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-54 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: ch@denx.de