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arc=pass (i=1 spf=pass spfdomain=siemens.com dkim=pass dkdomain=siemens.com dmarc=pass fromdomain=siemens.com); spf=pass (google.com: domain of alexander.heinisch@siemens.com designates 2a01:111:f403:c200::5 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=alexander.heinisch@siemens.com; dmarc=pass (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=siemens.com X-Original-From: "Heinisch, Alexander" Reply-To: "Heinisch, Alexander" Precedence: list Mailing-list: list isar-users@googlegroups.com; contact isar-users+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: isar-users@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 914930254986 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_MED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, RCVD_IN_RP_CERTIFIED,RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL,RCVD_IN_RP_SAFE,SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on shymkent.ilbers.de X-TUID: URV6Dl8wM8Qd On Tue, 2026-01-13 at 09:48 -0500, Badrikesh Prusty wrote: > Disable running populate-systemd-preset at build time by default. > Although systemd runs enable-only presets at first boot, running this > step during image creation changes the enabled state of units before > systemd=E2=80=99s first-boot logic runs,=C2=A0 Why is this a problem? The reasons why to have services prepopulated are listed here [1]. > ignores disable rules, and can cause ...as is the case with current systemd > some services to fail during runtime. What's the difference compared to enabling on first-boot? >=20 > Downstream users can opt in when preset population is required. Imo, having the pre population enabled seems to me a propper default. If downstream has issues with the prepopulation, for some reason (maybe you can clarify based on concrete cases) then you always can opt-out via: ROOTFS_FEATURES:remove =3D "populate-systemd-preset" Initially your V1 was about not only enabling but also disabling services in the postprocessing. What caused the change to neither populate enabled nor disabled units? As above, maybe a concrete example helps to understand your requirements. BR Alexander 1: https://github.com/ilbers/isar/blob/master/RECIPE-API-CHANGELOG.md#populate= -systemd-units-based-on-presets-during-image-postprocessing >=20 > Opt-in: > =C2=A0 ROOTFS_FEATURES:append =3D " populate-systemd-preset" >=20 > Signed-off-by: Badrikesh Prusty > --- > =C2=A0RECIPE-API-CHANGELOG.md=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 | 14 ++++++++++++++ > =C2=A0meta/classes-recipe/image.bbclass |=C2=A0 1 - > =C2=A02 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) >=20 > diff --git a/RECIPE-API-CHANGELOG.md b/RECIPE-API-CHANGELOG.md > index 0bad8a44..46c8c905 100644 > --- a/RECIPE-API-CHANGELOG.md > +++ b/RECIPE-API-CHANGELOG.md > @@ -962,3 +962,17 @@ INSTALLER_UNATTENDED_ABORT_ENABLE =3D "1" > =C2=A0# Optional: set countdown timeout in seconds (default 5) > =C2=A0INSTALLER_UNATTENDED_ABORT_TIMEOUT =3D "5" > =C2=A0``` > + > +### Make populate-systemd-preset opt-in > + > +Running populate-systemd-preset at build time is disabled by > default. > +Although systemd runs enable-only presets by default at first boot, > +running this step at build time changes the enabled state of units > +before systemd=E2=80=99s first-boot logic runs, ignores disable rules, a= nd > +can cause some services to fail during runtime. > + > +Downstream users can explicitly enable this feature when preset > +population is required during image creation. > + > +Opt-in: > +=C2=A0 ROOTFS_FEATURES:append =3D " populate-systemd-preset" > diff --git a/meta/classes-recipe/image.bbclass b/meta/classes- > recipe/image.bbclass > index e605bc80..47ed068d 100644 > --- a/meta/classes-recipe/image.bbclass > +++ b/meta/classes-recipe/image.bbclass > @@ -101,7 +101,6 @@ ROOTFS_FEATURES +=3D "\ > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 export-dpkg-status \ > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 clean-log-files \ > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 clean-debconf-cache \ > -=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 populate-systemd-preset \ > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 generate-sbom \ > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 " > =C2=A0ROOTFS_PACKAGES +=3D "${IMAGE_PREINSTALL} > ${@isar_multiarch_packages('IMAGE_INSTALL', d)}" --=20 Alexander Heinisch Siemens AG www.siemens.com --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= isar-users" group. 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