bookworm/sid: new interactive system locale setting on first boot

bookworm/sid: new interactive system locale setting on first boot

[Jan Kiszka]

Hi all,

just installed a simple image (isar-cip-core) from a fresh sid of today 
and got this on first boot:


Welcome to your new installation of Debian GNU/Linux bookworm/sid!

Please configure your system!

-- Press any key to proceed --[  OK  ] Finished Flush Journal to Persistent Storage.
[  OK  ] Finished Load/Save Random Seed.
         Starting Regenerate sshd host keys...
[  OK  ] Finished Coldplug All udev Devices.
         Starting Helper to synchronize boot up for ifupdown...
[  OK  ] Finished Helper to synchronize boot up for ifupdown.
[  OK  ] Finished Regenerate sshd host keys.
l
‣ Please enter system locale name or number (empty to skip, "list" to list options): list
   1) C.UTF-8                  2) en_US.UTF-8           

‣ Please enter system locale name or number (empty to skip, "list" to list options):


Anyone seens this already as well? What could be missing to preconfigure 
things as before?

Jan

-- 
Siemens AG, Technology
Competence Center Embedded Linux

Re: bookworm/sid: new interactive system locale setting on first boot

[Henning Schild]

Am Fri, 7 Oct 2022 15:25:13 +0200
schrieb Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>:

> Hi all,
> 
> just installed a simple image (isar-cip-core) from a fresh sid of
> today and got this on first boot:
> 
> 
> Welcome to your new installation of Debian GNU/Linux bookworm/sid!
> 
> Please configure your system!
> 
> -- Press any key to proceed --[  OK  ] Finished Flush Journal to
> Persistent Storage. [  OK  ] Finished Load/Save Random Seed.
>          Starting Regenerate sshd host keys...
> [  OK  ] Finished Coldplug All udev Devices.
>          Starting Helper to synchronize boot up for ifupdown...
> [  OK  ] Finished Helper to synchronize boot up for ifupdown.
> [  OK  ] Finished Regenerate sshd host keys.
> l
> ‣ Please enter system locale name or number (empty to skip, "list" to
> list options): list 1) C.UTF-8                  2) en_US.UTF-8
>    
> 
> ‣ Please enter system locale name or number (empty to skip, "list" to
> list options):
> 
> 
> Anyone seens this already as well? What could be missing to
> preconfigure things as before?

Not seen before sorry. I did build and boot
mc:qemuamd64-bookworm:isar-image-base from isar next today, that was ok.

Maybe ro rootfs issues?

Henning

> Jan
> 

Re: bookworm/sid: new interactive system locale setting on first boot

[Jan Kiszka]

On 07.10.22 15:55, Henning Schild wrote:
> Am Fri, 7 Oct 2022 15:25:13 +0200
> schrieb Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>:
> 
>> Hi all,
>>
>> just installed a simple image (isar-cip-core) from a fresh sid of
>> today and got this on first boot:
>>
>>
>> Welcome to your new installation of Debian GNU/Linux bookworm/sid!
>>
>> Please configure your system!
>>
>> -- Press any key to proceed --[  OK  ] Finished Flush Journal to
>> Persistent Storage. [  OK  ] Finished Load/Save Random Seed.
>>          Starting Regenerate sshd host keys...
>> [  OK  ] Finished Coldplug All udev Devices.
>>          Starting Helper to synchronize boot up for ifupdown...
>> [  OK  ] Finished Helper to synchronize boot up for ifupdown.
>> [  OK  ] Finished Regenerate sshd host keys.
>> l
>> ‣ Please enter system locale name or number (empty to skip, "list" to
>> list options): list 1) C.UTF-8                  2) en_US.UTF-8
>>    
>>
>> ‣ Please enter system locale name or number (empty to skip, "list" to
>> list options):
>>
>>
>> Anyone seens this already as well? What could be missing to
>> preconfigure things as before?
> 
> Not seen before sorry. I did build and boot
> mc:qemuamd64-bookworm:isar-image-base from isar next today, that was ok.
> 
> Maybe ro rootfs issues?
> 

Kernel command line: console=hvc1 console=ttyS0 root=/dev/vda rw

Would have been too easy. It's a qemu-riscv64 target. Let me check if 
Isar itself is affected.

Jan

-- 
Siemens AG, Technology
Competence Center Embedded Linux

Re: bookworm/sid: new interactive system locale setting on first boot

[Florian Bezdeka]

On 07.10.22 16:10, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 07.10.22 15:55, Henning Schild wrote:
>> Am Fri, 7 Oct 2022 15:25:13 +0200
>> schrieb Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> just installed a simple image (isar-cip-core) from a fresh sid of
>>> today and got this on first boot:
>>>
>>>
>>> Welcome to your new installation of Debian GNU/Linux bookworm/sid!
>>>
>>> Please configure your system!
>>>
>>> -- Press any key to proceed --[  OK  ] Finished Flush Journal to
>>> Persistent Storage. [  OK  ] Finished Load/Save Random Seed.
>>>          Starting Regenerate sshd host keys...
>>> [  OK  ] Finished Coldplug All udev Devices.
>>>          Starting Helper to synchronize boot up for ifupdown...
>>> [  OK  ] Finished Helper to synchronize boot up for ifupdown.
>>> [  OK  ] Finished Regenerate sshd host keys.
>>> l
>>> ‣ Please enter system locale name or number (empty to skip, "list" to
>>> list options): list 1) C.UTF-8                  2) en_US.UTF-8
>>>    
>>>
>>> ‣ Please enter system locale name or number (empty to skip, "list" to
>>> list options):
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyone seens this already as well? What could be missing to
>>> preconfigure things as before?
>>
>> Not seen before sorry. I did build and boot
>> mc:qemuamd64-bookworm:isar-image-base from isar next today, that was ok.
>>
>> Maybe ro rootfs issues?
>>
> 
> Kernel command line: console=hvc1 console=ttyS0 root=/dev/vda rw
> 
> Would have been too easy. It's a qemu-riscv64 target. Let me check if 
> Isar itself is affected.

I can see the same thing for an arm64 image. In my case there is no 
error about locales, I'm just stuck at first boot. systemd is 
waiting for a key press which never happens.

It turned out that systemd introduced a new service called 
systemd-firstboot which can be used to setup some basic system 
information like hostname, timezone, root password, ... during 
first boot.

Upstream commit:
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commit/418b9be50018303cde79b423d4701b7fd86ddbdc

This is part of systemd 216 onwoards and Debian enabled it with 
the last release (251.5-1) in bookworm at 2022-10-02.

According to commit above the new service is started when /etc is 
found unpopulated. I guess this is why the service is somehow 
linked to /etc/machine-id.

Maybe Isar should mask that service if present?

> 
> Jan
> 

Re: bookworm/sid: new interactive system locale setting on first boot

[Henning Schild]

Am Wed, 12 Oct 2022 09:39:05 +0200
schrieb Florian Bezdeka <florian.bezdeka@siemens.com>:

> On 07.10.22 16:10, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> > On 07.10.22 15:55, Henning Schild wrote:  
> >> Am Fri, 7 Oct 2022 15:25:13 +0200
> >> schrieb Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>:
> >>  
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> just installed a simple image (isar-cip-core) from a fresh sid of
> >>> today and got this on first boot:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Welcome to your new installation of Debian GNU/Linux bookworm/sid!
> >>>
> >>> Please configure your system!
> >>>
> >>> -- Press any key to proceed --[  OK  ] Finished Flush Journal to
> >>> Persistent Storage. [  OK  ] Finished Load/Save Random Seed.
> >>>          Starting Regenerate sshd host keys...
> >>> [  OK  ] Finished Coldplug All udev Devices.
> >>>          Starting Helper to synchronize boot up for ifupdown...
> >>> [  OK  ] Finished Helper to synchronize boot up for ifupdown.
> >>> [  OK  ] Finished Regenerate sshd host keys.
> >>> l
> >>> ‣ Please enter system locale name or number (empty to skip,
> >>> "list" to list options): list 1) C.UTF-8                  2)
> >>> en_US.UTF-8 
> >>>
> >>> ‣ Please enter system locale name or number (empty to skip,
> >>> "list" to list options):
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Anyone seens this already as well? What could be missing to
> >>> preconfigure things as before?  
> >>
> >> Not seen before sorry. I did build and boot
> >> mc:qemuamd64-bookworm:isar-image-base from isar next today, that
> >> was ok.
> >>
> >> Maybe ro rootfs issues?
> >>  
> > 
> > Kernel command line: console=hvc1 console=ttyS0 root=/dev/vda rw
> > 
> > Would have been too easy. It's a qemu-riscv64 target. Let me check
> > if Isar itself is affected.  
> 
> I can see the same thing for an arm64 image. In my case there is no 
> error about locales, I'm just stuck at first boot. systemd is 
> waiting for a key press which never happens.
> 
> It turned out that systemd introduced a new service called 
> systemd-firstboot which can be used to setup some basic system 
> information like hostname, timezone, root password, ... during 
> first boot.
> 
> Upstream commit:
> https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commit/418b9be50018303cde79b423d4701b7fd86ddbdc
> 
> This is part of systemd 216 onwoards and Debian enabled it with 
> the last release (251.5-1) in bookworm at 2022-10-02.
> 
> According to commit above the new service is started when /etc is 
> found unpopulated. I guess this is why the service is somehow 
> linked to /etc/machine-id.
> 
> Maybe Isar should mask that service if present?

systemd.firstboot=off on the kernel cmdline could be a quick fix for a
layer. A better fix would likely be some snippet to set ExecStart or
provide answers to the questions via Credentials.
https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-firstboot.html#Credentials

systemd.firstboot just controls that very service and ConditionFirstBoot
will still work. And that can be controlled with the cmdline as well but
would be called systemd.condition-first-boot=

https://manpages.debian.org/testing/systemd/kernel-command-line.7.en.html

Henning

> > 
> > Jan
> >   
> 

Re: bookworm/sid: new interactive system locale setting on first boot

[Henning Schild]

Hi,

in a totally different context i tried a nightly build of grml for
something. And that also started asking weird questions about locales.

There is no issue in their github yet, and also not patch. But it might
be worth looking at how others deal with that. Maybe especially OE.

https://daily.grml.org/grml64-full_testing/2022-10-13_05-29-27/

Henning

Am Fri, 7 Oct 2022 15:25:13 +0200
schrieb Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>:

> Hi all,
> 
> just installed a simple image (isar-cip-core) from a fresh sid of
> today and got this on first boot:
> 
> 
> Welcome to your new installation of Debian GNU/Linux bookworm/sid!
> 
> Please configure your system!
> 
> -- Press any key to proceed --[  OK  ] Finished Flush Journal to
> Persistent Storage. [  OK  ] Finished Load/Save Random Seed.
>          Starting Regenerate sshd host keys...
> [  OK  ] Finished Coldplug All udev Devices.
>          Starting Helper to synchronize boot up for ifupdown...
> [  OK  ] Finished Helper to synchronize boot up for ifupdown.
> [  OK  ] Finished Regenerate sshd host keys.
> l
> ‣ Please enter system locale name or number (empty to skip, "list" to
> list options): list 1) C.UTF-8                  2) en_US.UTF-8
>    
> 
> ‣ Please enter system locale name or number (empty to skip, "list" to
> list options):
> 
> 
> Anyone seens this already as well? What could be missing to
> preconfigure things as before?
> 
> Jan
> 

Re: bookworm/sid: new interactive system locale setting on first boot

[Schaffner, Tobias]

On 13.10.22 14:50, Henning Schild wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> in a totally different context i tried a nightly build of grml for
> something. And that also started asking weird questions about locales.
> 
> There is no issue in their github yet, and also not patch. But it might
> be worth looking at how others deal with that. Maybe especially OE.
> 
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdaily.grml.org%2Fgrml64-full_testing%2F2022-10-13_05-29-27%2F&data=05%7C01%7Ctobias.schaffner%40siemens.com%7C892055cedb0f4d51003208daad198a4e%7C38ae3bcd95794fd4addab42e1495d55a%7C1%7C0%7C638012622458460393%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=kT6UFfopXdw2Zx9ZsdUzA4SJ8l2zb8zw2qTG4JoxVow%3D&reserved=0
> 
> Henning

I ran into the same issue today.

Looks like systemd-firstboot asks for a selection if /etc/locale.conf 
[1] is not present.

We can fix this by creating the file with content LANG=${LOCALE_DEFAULT} 
in meta/classes/image-locales-extension.bbclass

Do we want to go down that route or do we want to get rid of 
systemd-firstboot?

Tobias

[1] https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man5/locale.conf.5.html

> Am Fri, 7 Oct 2022 15:25:13 +0200
> schrieb Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>:
> 
>> Hi all,
>>
>> just installed a simple image (isar-cip-core) from a fresh sid of
>> today and got this on first boot:
>>
>>
>> Welcome to your new installation of Debian GNU/Linux bookworm/sid!
>>
>> Please configure your system!
>>
>> -- Press any key to proceed --[  OK  ] Finished Flush Journal to
>> Persistent Storage. [  OK  ] Finished Load/Save Random Seed.
>>           Starting Regenerate sshd host keys...
>> [  OK  ] Finished Coldplug All udev Devices.
>>           Starting Helper to synchronize boot up for ifupdown...
>> [  OK  ] Finished Helper to synchronize boot up for ifupdown.
>> [  OK  ] Finished Regenerate sshd host keys.
>> l
>> ‣ Please enter system locale name or number (empty to skip, "list" to
>> list options): list 1) C.UTF-8                  2) en_US.UTF-8
>>     
>>
>> ‣ Please enter system locale name or number (empty to skip, "list" to
>> list options):
>>
>>
>> Anyone seens this already as well? What could be missing to
>> preconfigure things as before?
>>
>> Jan
>>
> 

RE: bookworm/sid: new interactive system locale setting on first boot

[Moessbauer, Felix]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: isar-users@googlegroups.com <isar-users@googlegroups.com> On
> Behalf Of Schaffner, Tobias
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 4:52 PM
> To: Schild, Henning (T CED SES-DE) <henning.schild@siemens.com>; Kiszka, Jan
> (T CED) <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
> Cc: isar-users <isar-users@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: bookworm/sid: new interactive system locale setting on first boot
> 
> On 13.10.22 14:50, Henning Schild wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > in a totally different context i tried a nightly build of grml for
> > something. And that also started asking weird questions about locales.
> >
> > There is no issue in their github yet, and also not patch. But it
> > might be worth looking at how others deal with that. Maybe especially OE.
> >
> > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdail
> > y.grml.org%2Fgrml64-full_testing%2F2022-10-13_05-29-
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> > Henning
> 
> I ran into the same issue today.
> 
> Looks like systemd-firstboot asks for a selection if /etc/locale.conf [1] is not
> present.
> 
> We can fix this by creating the file with content LANG=${LOCALE_DEFAULT} in
> meta/classes/image-locales-extension.bbclass

If that works, it would be an easy fix.
I personally just disabled the service using the kernel cmdline, but that option might easily be misunderstood as to do not support the first-boot target.
As pointed out earlier by Florian, the switch "systemd.firstboot=off" only disables this locale setting service.

In the end, we need a solution as the boot simply hangs at the prompt - not very useful for an embedded system.

Felix

> 
> Do we want to go down that route or do we want to get rid of systemd-
> firstboot?
> 
> Tobias
> 
> [1]
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> > Am Fri, 7 Oct 2022 15:25:13 +0200
> > schrieb Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> just installed a simple image (isar-cip-core) from a fresh sid of
> >> today and got this on first boot:
> >>
> >>
> >> Welcome to your new installation of Debian GNU/Linux bookworm/sid!
> >>
> >> Please configure your system!
> >>
> >> -- Press any key to proceed --[  OK  ] Finished Flush Journal to
> >> Persistent Storage. [  OK  ] Finished Load/Save Random Seed.
> >>           Starting Regenerate sshd host keys...
> >> [  OK  ] Finished Coldplug All udev Devices.
> >>           Starting Helper to synchronize boot up for ifupdown...
> >> [  OK  ] Finished Helper to synchronize boot up for ifupdown.
> >> [  OK  ] Finished Regenerate sshd host keys.
> >> l
> >> ‣ Please enter system locale name or number (empty to skip, "list" to
> >> list options): list 1) C.UTF-8                  2) en_US.UTF-8
> >>
> >>
> >> ‣ Please enter system locale name or number (empty to skip, "list" to
> >> list options):
> >>
> >>
> >> Anyone seens this already as well? What could be missing to
> >> preconfigure things as before?
> >>
> >> Jan
> >>
> >
> 
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Re: bookworm/sid: new interactive system locale setting on first boot

[Henning Schild]

Am Thu, 20 Oct 2022 10:51:34 +0200
schrieb "Schaffner, Tobias (T CED SES-DE)"
<tobias.schaffner@siemens.com>:

> On 13.10.22 14:50, Henning Schild wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > in a totally different context i tried a nightly build of grml for
> > something. And that also started asking weird questions about
> > locales.
> > 
> > There is no issue in their github yet, and also not patch. But it
> > might be worth looking at how others deal with that. Maybe
> > especially OE.
> > 
> > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdaily.grml.org%2Fgrml64-full_testing%2F2022-10-13_05-29-27%2F&amp;data=05%7C01%7Ctobias.schaffner%40siemens.com%7C892055cedb0f4d51003208daad198a4e%7C38ae3bcd95794fd4addab42e1495d55a%7C1%7C0%7C638012622458460393%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=kT6UFfopXdw2Zx9ZsdUzA4SJ8l2zb8zw2qTG4JoxVow%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > 
> > Henning  
> 
> I ran into the same issue today.
> 
> Looks like systemd-firstboot asks for a selection if /etc/locale.conf 
> [1] is not present.
> 
> We can fix this by creating the file with content
> LANG=${LOCALE_DEFAULT} in meta/classes/image-locales-extension.bbclass
> 
> Do we want to go down that route or do we want to get rid of 
> systemd-firstboot?

I think for the time being we want to just disable it via the cmdline.
It is unexpected and breaks non-interactive booting.

But looking at what that thing can do ... it seems valuable to keep it
in mind. It in fact does 3 key things which we kind of want to do in
any isar image as well. (and it can do more we also might want)
- hostname (part of almost every layer i know)
- rootpw (part of isar core)
- locales (part of isar core)

Maybe we can eventually use it for these purposes and drop our
implementations.

But back to the question on locale.conf. Generating that might also be
an option. Here i would suggest to see where it comes from in a debian
installed with the debian installer, if it is generated together with
locale.gen and friends ... yes we likely want to generate it in the
extension and solve the problem that way. Also have a look at the
reconfigure scripts that we cater for, and how they changed with that
more recent systemd.

Henning

> Tobias
> 
> [1] https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man5/locale.conf.5.html
> 
> > Am Fri, 7 Oct 2022 15:25:13 +0200
> > schrieb Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>:
> >   
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> just installed a simple image (isar-cip-core) from a fresh sid of
> >> today and got this on first boot:
> >>
> >>
> >> Welcome to your new installation of Debian GNU/Linux bookworm/sid!
> >>
> >> Please configure your system!
> >>
> >> -- Press any key to proceed --[  OK  ] Finished Flush Journal to
> >> Persistent Storage. [  OK  ] Finished Load/Save Random Seed.
> >>           Starting Regenerate sshd host keys...
> >> [  OK  ] Finished Coldplug All udev Devices.
> >>           Starting Helper to synchronize boot up for ifupdown...
> >> [  OK  ] Finished Helper to synchronize boot up for ifupdown.
> >> [  OK  ] Finished Regenerate sshd host keys.
> >> l
> >> ‣ Please enter system locale name or number (empty to skip, "list"
> >> to list options): list 1) C.UTF-8                  2) en_US.UTF-8
> >>     
> >>
> >> ‣ Please enter system locale name or number (empty to skip, "list"
> >> to list options):
> >>
> >>
> >> Anyone seens this already as well? What could be missing to
> >> preconfigure things as before?
> >>
> >> Jan
> >>  
> >   

Re: bookworm/sid: new interactive system locale setting on first boot

[Schaffner, Tobias]

On 20.10.22 12:54, Schild, Henning (T CED SES-DE) wrote:

> I think for the time being we want to just disable it via the cmdline.
> It is unexpected and breaks non-interactive booting.
> 
> But looking at what that thing can do ... it seems valuable to keep it
> in mind. It in fact does 3 key things which we kind of want to do in
> any isar image as well. (and it can do more we also might want)
> - hostname (part of almost every layer i know)
> - rootpw (part of isar core)
> - locales (part of isar core)
> 
> Maybe we can eventually use it for these purposes and drop our
> implementations.
> 
> But back to the question on locale.conf. Generating that might also be
> an option. Here i would suggest to see where it comes from in a debian
> installed with the debian installer, if it is generated together with
> locale.gen and friends ... yes we likely want to generate it in the
> extension and solve the problem that way. Also have a look at the
> reconfigure scripts that we cater for, and how they changed with that
> more recent systemd.
> 
> Henning

I would suggest to provide the locale.conf even if we disable systemd-firstboot 
via the command line. Other packages might rely on a the new file as firstboot 
ensures that it will be present on bookworm.

Re: bookworm/sid: new interactive system locale setting on first boot

[Henning Schild]

Am Thu, 20 Oct 2022 13:11:44 +0200
schrieb "Schaffner, Tobias (T CED SES-DE)"
<tobias.schaffner@siemens.com>:

> On 20.10.22 12:54, Schild, Henning (T CED SES-DE) wrote:
> 
> > I think for the time being we want to just disable it via the
> > cmdline. It is unexpected and breaks non-interactive booting.
> > 
> > But looking at what that thing can do ... it seems valuable to keep
> > it in mind. It in fact does 3 key things which we kind of want to
> > do in any isar image as well. (and it can do more we also might
> > want)
> > - hostname (part of almost every layer i know)
> > - rootpw (part of isar core)
> > - locales (part of isar core)
> > 
> > Maybe we can eventually use it for these purposes and drop our
> > implementations.
> > 
> > But back to the question on locale.conf. Generating that might also
> > be an option. Here i would suggest to see where it comes from in a
> > debian installed with the debian installer, if it is generated
> > together with locale.gen and friends ... yes we likely want to
> > generate it in the extension and solve the problem that way. Also
> > have a look at the reconfigure scripts that we cater for, and how
> > they changed with that more recent systemd.
> > 
> > Henning  
> 
> I would suggest to provide the locale.conf even if we disable
> systemd-firstboot via the command line. Other packages might rely on
> a the new file as firstboot ensures that it will be present on
> bookworm.

Yes simply follow any change that came in the reconfigure scripts and
the installer should be the way to go. The patch you did send looks
like you already had a look at the debconf stuff.

Henning

Re: bookworm/sid: new interactive system locale setting on first boot

[Henning Schild]

Hi all,

i was wondering how this could even happen behind our backs. Turns out
CI does build bookworm but does not boot it, maybe that should be
changed and we should actually boot it.

Henning

Am Fri, 7 Oct 2022 15:25:13 +0200
schrieb Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>:

> Hi all,
> 
> just installed a simple image (isar-cip-core) from a fresh sid of
> today and got this on first boot:
> 
> 
> Welcome to your new installation of Debian GNU/Linux bookworm/sid!
> 
> Please configure your system!
> 
> -- Press any key to proceed --[  OK  ] Finished Flush Journal to
> Persistent Storage. [  OK  ] Finished Load/Save Random Seed.
>          Starting Regenerate sshd host keys...
> [  OK  ] Finished Coldplug All udev Devices.
>          Starting Helper to synchronize boot up for ifupdown...
> [  OK  ] Finished Helper to synchronize boot up for ifupdown.
> [  OK  ] Finished Regenerate sshd host keys.
> l
> ‣ Please enter system locale name or number (empty to skip, "list" to
> list options): list 1) C.UTF-8                  2) en_US.UTF-8
>    
> 
> ‣ Please enter system locale name or number (empty to skip, "list" to
> list options):
> 
> 
> Anyone seens this already as well? What could be missing to
> preconfigure things as before?
> 
> Jan
>