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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: isar-users@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] first wic integration
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 13:15:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1a55fba5-e089-5bbe-4f14-e1931dea38dd@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180131120245.GC6508@yssyq.radix50.net>

On 2018-01-31 13:02, Baurzhan Ismagulov wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:47:08PM +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>> If the manual non-root call did work before, i will look into that.
>>>
>>> Yes. Yes, please do.
>>>
>>> In Yocto, manual non-root call works. The same is our vision for Isar. For now,
>>> it has been workarounded with sudo. We have a working PoC based on PRoot in the
>>> pipeline. So I don't support the idea of changing the user experience because
>>> of this issue.
>>
>> While I agree we should try to get whole Isar unprivileged, let's not
>> invest too much into this when it's complex. We are currently far away
>> from that goal (as you know, proot has several open issues as well), and
>> this here solves the problem of having to run wic manually at all.
> 
> No effort whatsoever. This is already workarounded in master in the following
> commit:
> 
> bf873d3 wic: Use sudo instead of pseudo
> 

This hacks in wic, and that has to go in order to keep maintainability.
We need to solve that differently, for sure.

> My suggestion is not to revert that. I agree with Henning that we should cover
> that in CI. I'll provide an initial testing framework, then we should sync who
> does what. The other mcopy and fsck issues are not covered, either.
> 
> 
> Regarding the PRoot PoC, I don't agree we are far away. Everything works
> except mounting. We've just postponed the work due to higher-prio issues.

I'm happy to discuss the effort you see in resolving that last issue and
will re-prioritize.

> 
> 
>>> b1511ec wic: Work around mcopy error

This issue is not understood yet, thus the commit not ready for
upstream. Furthermore, the log does not describe how to reproduce the
issue. So - how to clarify if we still need it?

>>> 17f9196 wic: Introduce the `WicExecError` exception class

Can you explain why fsck should return an error at all on a freshly
built file system image? This seems to paper over some issue to me.

>>>
>>> All of them are not related to the bitbake core and fix concrete issues with
>>> image generation that were not addressed in the baseline bitbake. Did you
>>> address those issues in your new changes?
>>
>> Good points, should be clarified. Maybe an update of the upstream wic
>> import is the answer if we are about to lose something. Better than
>> patching locally in Isar, as so far.
> 
> Do you mean we should initiate upstreaming that to OE? If yes, I agree with
> you. The only question is point of time. My idea was to wait till Henning
> completes the lifecycle with his OE contribution and learn from his experience.
> If you think we should do that now, please let me know.

Local hacks can save some time for a while but will shoot back with more
effort eventually. I think we are already at that point, so let's move
forward. We can help you with this.

Jan

-- 
Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT RDA IOT SES-DE
Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-31 12:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-31  9:41 Henning Schild
2018-01-31  9:41 ` [PATCH 1/9] classes: image: introduce size measuring function, for before do_*_image Henning Schild
2018-01-31  9:41 ` [PATCH 2/9] images: new class wic-img for wic intregration Henning Schild
2018-02-13 14:44   ` Alexander Smirnov
2018-02-13 16:06     ` Henning Schild
2018-01-31  9:41 ` [PATCH 3/9] wic: add a bootimg-efi-isar plugin outside the wic tree Henning Schild
2018-02-12 17:48   ` Jan Kiszka
2018-01-31  9:41 ` [PATCH 4/9] Revert "wic: Make the bootimg-efi plugin generate usable images" Henning Schild
2018-01-31  9:41 ` [PATCH 5/9] Revert "wic: Introduce the `WicExecError` exception class" Henning Schild
2018-01-31  9:41 ` [PATCH 6/9] Revert "wic: Work around mcopy error" Henning Schild
2018-01-31  9:41 ` [PATCH 7/9] Revert "wic: Use sudo instead of pseudo" Henning Schild
2018-01-31  9:41 ` [PATCH 8/9] Revert "wic: Remove sysroot support" Henning Schild
2018-01-31  9:42 ` [PATCH 9/9] wic: now truly go for the wic version we claim to have Henning Schild
2018-01-31 10:11   ` Alexander Smirnov
2018-01-31 10:55     ` Jan Kiszka
2018-01-31 11:11       ` Alexander Smirnov
2018-01-31 11:43         ` Jan Kiszka
2018-01-31 11:53           ` Baurzhan Ismagulov
2018-01-31 12:01             ` Jan Kiszka
2018-01-31 12:28               ` Baurzhan Ismagulov
2018-01-31 13:53                 ` Henning Schild
2018-01-31 14:01                   ` Baurzhan Ismagulov
2018-01-31 14:21                     ` Henning Schild
2018-01-31 10:02 ` [PATCH 0/9] first wic integration Alexander Smirnov
2018-01-31 10:12   ` Henning Schild
2018-01-31 11:24     ` Baurzhan Ismagulov
2018-01-31 11:47       ` Jan Kiszka
2018-01-31 12:02         ` Baurzhan Ismagulov
2018-01-31 12:15           ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2018-01-31 13:30             ` Jan Kiszka
2018-01-31 13:41               ` Baurzhan Ismagulov
2018-01-31 14:01                 ` Jan Kiszka
2018-01-31 15:21                   ` Baurzhan Ismagulov
2018-01-31 15:46                     ` Henning Schild
2018-01-31 16:13                     ` Jan Kiszka
2018-01-31 13:35             ` Baurzhan Ismagulov
2018-01-31 13:47               ` Henning Schild
2018-01-31 14:00                 ` Baurzhan Ismagulov
2018-01-31 13:46             ` Henning Schild
2018-01-31 13:36           ` Henning Schild
2018-01-31 13:40             ` Baurzhan Ismagulov
2018-01-31 13:05       ` Henning Schild
2018-02-01 12:41 ` [PATCH] images: wic: limit use of sudo and enable manual call again Henning Schild
2018-02-01 12:44   ` Henning Schild
2018-02-01 16:09     ` Baurzhan Ismagulov
2018-02-01 18:10       ` Henning Schild
2018-02-01 18:55         ` Henning Schild
2018-02-12 19:07   ` Henning Schild
2018-02-12 17:27 ` [PATCH 0/9] first wic integration Henning Schild
2018-02-12 18:21   ` Alexander Smirnov
2018-02-12 18:30     ` Henning Schild

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