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From: "'cedric.hombourger@siemens.com' via isar-users" <isar-users@googlegroups.com>
To: "Bezdeka, Florian" <florian.bezdeka@siemens.com>,
	"Larson, Chris" <chris.larson@siemens.com>,
	"Kiszka, Jan" <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	"isar-users@googlegroups.com" <isar-users@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Add support for per-kernel recipe variants
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2025 10:29:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1abf49a8615e574600dc70765fa183a965d4d725.camel@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0fe2440d-190b-4388-b6f6-55b834d5ba09@siemens.com>

On Tue, 2025-04-08 at 12:05 +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 08.04.25 10:18, 'cedric.hombourger@siemens.com' via isar-users
> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2025-04-08 at 10:09 +0200, Florian Bezdeka wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2025-04-07 at 09:01 -0700, chris.larson via isar-users
> > > wrote:
> > > > From: Christopher Larson <chris.larson@siemens.com>
> > > > 
> > > > Add support for per-kernel recipe variants. This aids in the
> > > > ability for a
> > > > MACHINE to support multiple kernels, by allowing us to generate
> > > > per-kernel
> > > > variants in recipes like external kernel modules.
> > > > 
> > > > A new variable KERNEL_NAMES will list the kernels for which
> > > > variants will be
> > > > generated. It defaults to KERNEL_NAME. While this variable
> > > > lists
> > > > all supported
> > > > kernels for the current machine, a variant will not be
> > > > generated
> > > > for
> > > > KERNEL_NAME, assuming that's the recipe's baseline. Each
> > > > variant
> > > > listed in
> > > > KERNEL_NAMES will add kernel-<kernel_name> to the OVERRIDES
> > > > variable, and
> > > > per-kernel:<kernel_name> to the BBCLASSEXTEND variable. In
> > > > addition,
> > > > KERNEL_NAME will be set to the kernel name for the current
> > > > variant.
> > > 
> > > I'm missing the documentation for the new `KERNEL_NAMES`
> > > variable.
> > > 
> > > In addition you explained how this works, but what is the use
> > > case
> > > behind? I can build multiple kernels per machine now, but when is
> > > this
> > > needed?
> > 
> > If you are wanting a concrete use-case noted in the documentation,
> > it
> > can certainly be added: no harm.
> > 
> > Concretely there are machine-supporting layers offering multiple
> > kernels. Examples: "normal" kernel, PREEMPT_RT kernel. Another use-
> > case
> > until we get a .deb for each .ko (like in Yocto you can get an ipk
> > for
> > each ko), you may need a footprint-optimized kernel for e.g. a
> > recovery
> > image.
> > 
> > I hope that explains. Do let us know if the use-cases should be
> > listed
> > in the documentation. It would not be an issue to add them
> > 
> 
> It's more than that: New features need demos and test cases.

No disagreements here. We can have Chris check for a meta-isar / meta-
test place where this feature could be exercised

> 
> Isar is not just place to dump some bits from downstream use cases.

Be assured that we are not just throwing stuff over the wall...

> It
> is the place to develop and use them. There can be exceptions, but
> the
> rule is different.
> 
> Jan
> 


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      reply	other threads:[~2025-04-08 10:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-07 16:01 chris.larson via isar-users
2025-04-07 16:01 ` [PATCH 1/2] per-kernel.bbclass: add class chris.larson via isar-users
2025-04-07 16:01 ` [PATCH 2/2] linux-module: inherit per-kernel chris.larson via isar-users
2025-04-07 19:25   ` 'cedric.hombourger@siemens.com' via isar-users
2025-04-08  8:07   ` 'Florian Bezdeka' via isar-users
2025-04-08  8:13     ` 'cedric.hombourger@siemens.com' via isar-users
2025-04-08 17:12       ` 'Larson, Chris' via isar-users
2025-04-08  8:09 ` [PATCH 0/2] Add support for per-kernel recipe variants 'Florian Bezdeka' via isar-users
2025-04-08  8:18   ` 'cedric.hombourger@siemens.com' via isar-users
2025-04-08  8:29     ` 'Florian Bezdeka' via isar-users
2025-04-08  8:34       ` 'cedric.hombourger@siemens.com' via isar-users
2025-04-08 10:05     ` 'Jan Kiszka' via isar-users
2025-04-08 10:29       ` 'cedric.hombourger@siemens.com' via isar-users [this message]

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