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spf=pass (google.com: domain of cedric.hombourger@siemens.com designates 2a01:111:f403:c207::3 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=cedric.hombourger@siemens.com; dmarc=pass (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=siemens.com X-Original-From: "cedric.hombourger@siemens.com" Reply-To: "cedric.hombourger@siemens.com" Precedence: list Mailing-list: list isar-users@googlegroups.com; contact isar-users+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: isar-users@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 914930254986 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_MED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,RCVD_IN_RP_CERTIFIED, RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL,RCVD_IN_RP_SAFE,SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on shymkent.ilbers.de X-TUID: rSBz8cg3Gqcs On Tue, 2025-04-08 at 12:05 +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote: > On 08.04.25 10:18, 'cedric.hombourger@siemens.com' via isar-users > wrote: > > On Tue, 2025-04-08 at 10:09 +0200, Florian Bezdeka wrote: > > > On Mon, 2025-04-07 at 09:01 -0700, chris.larson via isar-users > > > wrote: > > > > From: Christopher Larson > > > > > > > > Add support for per-kernel recipe variants. This aids in the > > > > ability for a > > > > MACHINE to support multiple kernels, by allowing us to generate > > > > per-kernel > > > > variants in recipes like external kernel modules. > > > > > > > > A new variable KERNEL_NAMES will list the kernels for which > > > > variants will be > > > > generated. It defaults to KERNEL_NAME. While this variable > > > > lists > > > > all supported > > > > kernels for the current machine, a variant will not be > > > > generated > > > > for > > > > KERNEL_NAME, assuming that's the recipe's baseline. Each > > > > variant > > > > listed in > > > > KERNEL_NAMES will add kernel- to the OVERRIDES > > > > variable, and > > > > per-kernel: to the BBCLASSEXTEND variable. In > > > > addition, > > > > KERNEL_NAME will be set to the kernel name for the current > > > > variant. > > > > > > I'm missing the documentation for the new `KERNEL_NAMES` > > > variable. > > > > > > In addition you explained how this works, but what is the use > > > case > > > behind? I can build multiple kernels per machine now, but when is > > > this > > > needed? > > > > If you are wanting a concrete use-case noted in the documentation, > > it > > can certainly be added: no harm. > > > > Concretely there are machine-supporting layers offering multiple > > kernels. Examples: "normal" kernel, PREEMPT_RT kernel. Another use- > > case > > until we get a .deb for each .ko (like in Yocto you can get an ipk > > for > > each ko), you may need a footprint-optimized kernel for e.g. a > > recovery > > image. > > > > I hope that explains. Do let us know if the use-cases should be > > listed > > in the documentation. It would not be an issue to add them > > > > It's more than that: New features need demos and test cases. No disagreements here. We can have Chris check for a meta-isar / meta- test place where this feature could be exercised > > Isar is not just place to dump some bits from downstream use cases. Be assured that we are not just throwing stuff over the wall... > It > is the place to develop and use them. There can be exceptions, but > the > rule is different. > > Jan > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "isar-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to isar-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/isar-users/1abf49a8615e574600dc70765fa183a965d4d725.camel%40siemens.com.