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[85.214.62.211]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 74si415405wmf.8.2017.08.27.16.46.25 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 27 Aug 2017 16:46:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 85.214.62.211 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of ibr@radix50.net) client-ip=85.214.62.211; Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 85.214.62.211 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of ibr@radix50.net) smtp.mailfrom=ibr@radix50.net Received: from yssyq.radix50.net (p5B2DC67E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [91.45.198.126]) (authenticated bits=0) by aqmola.ilbers.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-4+deb7u1) with ESMTP id v7RNkMlb008343 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2017 01:46:24 +0200 Received: from yssyq.radix50.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by yssyq.radix50.net (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8) with ESMTP id v7RNkM9l014761 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2017 01:46:22 +0200 Received: (from ibr@localhost) by yssyq.radix50.net (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id v7RNkMuq014760 for isar-users@googlegroups.com; Mon, 28 Aug 2017 01:46:22 +0200 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 01:46:22 +0200 From: Baurzhan Ismagulov To: isar-users@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PATCH 0-10 of 16 v2 4/8] meta: conf: use bitbake.conf from bitbake and apply local changes Message-ID: <20170827234622.GD7497@yssyq.radix50.net> Mail-Followup-To: isar-users@googlegroups.com References: <20170821132539.GD8387@yssyq.radix50.net> <20170821202940.2f4b43c6@md1em3qc> <20170822113129.GF4244@yssyq.radix50.net> <20170822144528.37e1cf5e@md1em3qc> <20170822153102.GG4244@yssyq.radix50.net> <20170822205554.690876ef@md1em3qc> <20170823113142.GB5580@yssyq.radix50.net> <20170823134630.5cbc574a@md1em3qc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170823134630.5cbc574a@md1em3qc> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-TUID: ZkByJLIULWSV On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 01:46:30PM +0200, Henning Schild wrote: > > * If there is a problem, please articulate expectations; that would > > allow us to address them (unlike e.g. just a request to revert). > > In this very example i did request the revert earlier, with reasoning. For this example, I had got the reasoning. I still hope we can bring communication harmony to the next level ;) . > And i got tired of repeating myself and mails not beeing read > carefully or at all, also not for the first time. This can be frustrating. I hope the following could help understanding why. * Patch processing takes time. * The order depends on the effort and may not be sequential. * If you see no response, it can have various reasons. * Accusing people is harmful. * What would help is taking one specific issue and bringing it to a certain result. * Many parallel threads are ineffective. * Asking about all outstanding issues altogether is ineffective. * Negative result is also a result. One reason for dead threads is the loop where the participants don't change their opinions but continue looping over the same arguments. With kind regards, Baurzhan.