Re: New user feedback

[Henning Schild <henning.schild@siemens.com>]

Hi Bill,

thanks for your feedback!

Am Thu, 23 Nov 2017 08:51:40 -0500
schrieb "William A. Mills" <wm.a.mills@gmail.com>:

> Hi,
> 
> I am Bill Mills from TI.  I can't use my @ti.com e-mail address on
> this forum or github project so I will be using this gmail one at
> least for now.
> 
> Getting hands on with ISAR has been on my TODO list since DebConf in
> Montreal.  I finally got around to this last Wednesday (11/15).
> 
> I have been using OE since 2008 and Yocto Project since its
> inception.  I am a log time Ubuntu user so I consider myself a
> decently knowledgeable power user for Debian style distros.
> 
> The above is to give you some context.  It is also to show that I
> have more experience than many of your potential users.
> 
> The good news:
> 
> In a fresh Debian Jessie VM I had no problem following your
> directions and getting builds for QEMU armhf, i386, and amd64.
> 
> A good number of the problem I found and worked around were fixed in
> the push to master on Nov 17:  rerepro & python package dependences,
> misplaced proc mount, clean up of dev and proc mounts on failure,

Good to hear that.
 
> The improvements I think you could make for new users:
> 
> 1) The user documentation should say what host distros are supported.

...

good point
  
> 2) The user documentation should guide the user to setup a new VM (or
> container) to do the work in.
 
True. We at Siemens actually do build in docker and we should share how
we do that. Actually the images are public just the commands might not
be.

Try that on any host-Linux running docker:

$ docker run -e USER_ID=$(id -u) --rm -t -i  --cap-add=SYS_ADMIN
--device $(/sbin/losetup -f) --cap-add=MKNOD -e http_proxy=$http_proxy
-e https_proxy=$https_proxy -e ftp_proxy=$ftp_proxy -e
no_proxy=$no_proxy kasproject/kas-isar bash

builder@..$ git clone https://github.com/ilbers/isar.git
  cd isar
  . ./isar-init-build-env ../build
builder@..:~/build$ bitbake
multiconfig:qemuamd64-stretch:isar-image-base

> 3) Provide extra host configuration guidance
> 
> I know how to enable jessie-backports but I am not sure everyone will.

Well the prefered way would be stretch+ anyways.

> Some methods of getting a clean VM leaves the locales unconfigured
> which causes a problem with bitbake.  I use:
> sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
> 
> and then pick en_US.UTF-8 UTF8 from the text menu.
> I think there are better ways also.

Patches for this are currently under discussion.

> 4) Provide a build dir delete script or task

If you use "docker run --rm" that is not a problem, but you are right.

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> -------
> 
> Should I create issues for these 4 items?
> 
> This is my feedback so far.
> I did read over the recipes, classes and main scripts and have a
> decent understanding of the basics.
> 
> Thanks for your attention.
> Bill
>