From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 6509751388101148672 X-Received: by 10.80.146.139 with SMTP id k11mr5501499eda.4.1516801448341; Wed, 24 Jan 2018 05:44:08 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: isar-users@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.80.190.10 with SMTP id a10ls2050533edi.6.gmail; Wed, 24 Jan 2018 05:44:07 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x226yWy02b2r0OkrFhtYem3SuI2iiwEPSTHUi6j0iaHJvlfI7BUpkuH0zsN4uNaz3Ph7tf+bY X-Received: by 10.80.186.135 with SMTP id x7mr4267104ede.0.1516801447621; Wed, 24 Jan 2018 05:44:07 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1516801447; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=g7aaVCEEIzw3A6dRTt9flJgUO7kQbK95d4lef7d9//qlpTNqbhCn1Sue0QL4yvJiFv UjTjBPQuF+or30dmG3ocypiaVvGYxI/20eR9LAqRnpvK/JH/O/DWEG/UWAfybxk0Sx+q lYQte1qTlfMPx24H0gxgp9UvuWYlIS21DmWhhTeLhTzx848IOj2GOStDhnLJ1JRRo2bv 4pBj7poEqxlzDBWaSczVh0y8Ay+wcP9M00IwEFGm8ur9OI2mBOVbbtifNYpT30o/z74l zDxS2KjDV8KtlfnUE8rIOv1u6KOOtyU1ZwwP0kbIE0+tWWEKVRgzCaaxI1fThRRTuAqc QNyA== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=user-agent:in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version:references :mail-followup-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date :arc-authentication-results; bh=iAASnNUSNGx4fcsUx0gllQ3qPAstFLvcp0Qkj93Izhw=; b=LDPramhbn8V4R5xfoMobAbmjO4Fbpk+tZrVZbpbOZaGWkoUn50j9ZGhMUDQDNcA9qG wJIJ29X23i31oRWnATDJ+F/zkFR9iA4Vv9Ec5PSBY5jHZe40/lLRZJNPMVsP8e+cGTRM WIy0QOsaAaA/KrwSBS2X1l9uX8vr79mCiOmMqSAb0t6cO1CH1DcObNh+091SyDzBx5PN g507m8xDM5q+HoIcsS9Vnyc9iaV8dk4PIPK7w5Wn2QKjrwxp3sR30OcP8FSGmEJnJZY5 zT6e0K12+Etvz0eZpwGrAkyEegwvun88c9ig+eyyEFoPuV4zd9kXlKvan5KLywYARa19 o3pg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 85.214.62.211 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of ibr@radix50.net) smtp.mailfrom=ibr@radix50.net Return-Path: Received: from aqmola.ilbers.de (aqmola.ilbers.de. [85.214.62.211]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g45si21921eda.0.2018.01.24.05.44.07 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Jan 2018 05:44:07 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 85.214.62.211 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of ibr@radix50.net) client-ip=85.214.62.211; Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 85.214.62.211 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of ibr@radix50.net) smtp.mailfrom=ibr@radix50.net Received: from yssyq.radix50.net (p2E51B0DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [46.81.176.223]) (authenticated bits=0) by aqmola.ilbers.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-4+deb7u1) with ESMTP id w0ODi5qU017264 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2018 14:44:06 +0100 Received: from yssyq.radix50.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by yssyq.radix50.net (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8) with ESMTP id w0ODi49d008392 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2018 14:44:04 +0100 Received: (from ibr@localhost) by yssyq.radix50.net (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id w0ODi4q5008391 for isar-users@googlegroups.com; Wed, 24 Jan 2018 14:44:04 +0100 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 14:44:04 +0100 From: Baurzhan Ismagulov To: isar-users@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RFC v2][PATCH 2/3] build-rep: Add helper class Message-ID: <20180124134404.GC6434@yssyq.radix50.net> Mail-Followup-To: isar-users@googlegroups.com References: <20180111111939.25667-1-asmirnov@ilbers.de> <20180111111939.25667-3-asmirnov@ilbers.de> <20180112133205.2d2d6615@mmd1pvb1c.ad001.siemens.net> <20180112172526.19bd23a2@mmd1pvb1c.ad001.siemens.net> <20180123115026.GA4542@yssyq.radix50.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-TUID: 5AI4zczU7Hm6 On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 02:02:24PM +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote: > > That said, it's a matter of priority -- reproducibility and wic were at the > > top of Jan's wishlist. FWIW, Alex already has an implementation for own > > package dependencies and will post it. > > wic was addressed by Henning, you can focus on reviews. I had understood this, thus "were" [when we started working on that]. > This is a strategical project decision because it affect the user > experience and the way recipes are written. Then, I'd suggest to continue the discussion when Henning is back. > Despite the project needs, > we must not hurry quick intermediate solutions (unless the are truly > orthogonal to the recipes). Intertwined mirror and build is an inferior approach. So, my point is not to invest in it, because we have a working PoC of a better solution. We can address outstanding technical issues before or after merging -- the question being one line in debian/control. To make it clear, "quick" isn't about "hurry", it's about work breakdown and moving in small steps. Having a PoC and hands-on experience with it is crucial for coming up with the right concept at the end. With kind regards, Baurzhan.