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[85.214.62.211]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v195si15416wmf.0.2018.04.09.05.49.02 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 09 Apr 2018 05:49:02 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 85.214.62.211 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of ibr@radix50.net) client-ip=85.214.62.211; Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 85.214.62.211 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of ibr@radix50.net) smtp.mailfrom=ibr@radix50.net Received: from yssyq.radix50.net (ip-109-41-192-252.web.vodafone.de [109.41.192.252]) (authenticated bits=0) by aqmola.ilbers.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-4+deb7u1) with ESMTP id w39Cn0oF025866 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2018 14:49:01 +0200 Received: from yssyq.radix50.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by yssyq.radix50.net (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8) with ESMTP id w39CmsOF023338 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2018 14:48:54 +0200 Received: (from ibr@localhost) by yssyq.radix50.net (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id w39CmsYN023337 for isar-users@googlegroups.com; Mon, 9 Apr 2018 14:48:54 +0200 Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 14:48:54 +0200 From: Baurzhan Ismagulov To: isar-users@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/5] Debootstrap integration Message-ID: <20180409124853.GA4414@yssyq.radix50.net> Mail-Followup-To: isar-users@googlegroups.com References: <20180403100802.30710-1-claudius.heine.ext@siemens.com> <20180404203434.GC3164@yssyq.radix50.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-TUID: TRUT1ue3JZwg On Mon, Apr 09, 2018 at 12:50:56PM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote: > what's the status of this series from upstream perspective now? Claudius > sent a documentation update. Any further requirements that need to be > fulfilled prior to this becoming ready for merge? Sorry for the delay, I'm still investigating the following issues: 1. CI fails with the series applied, and 2. The series drops Pre-Depends support and daemon starting prevention. Regarding (1): As the series removes hostname setting, the image inherits the hostname of the build host. I.e., images generated on different build hosts have different hostnames. CI already checks the hostname and fails. I'd suggest to restore at least the one-liner setting the hostname, possibly in {debian,raspbian}-configscript.sh. Regarding (2): The motivation for the old configscript.sh / setup.sh distinction was to support Pre-Depends. "Sometimes, unpacking one package requires that another package be first unpacked and configured. In this case, the depending package must specify this dependency in the Pre-Depends control field." [1]. Besides that, setup.sh prevented daemons from being started during the configuration, which they otherwise are. The series happens to work with Isar's minimal set of packages. ATM, I'm not sure about the implications for real projects with more packages. What should we do with this? (I still think that in the end, we'll need more features than debootstrap provides today, but that's a different story). In general, I'm willing to move forward quickly. That said, I'd also like to understand issues and have consensus when which issues are going to be addressed. Till now, master has been the stable branch. Maybe we should introduce an additional staging branch other than next. What do you think? References: 1. https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ With kind regards, Baurzhan.