From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 6591699875972251648 X-Received: by 2002:a2e:5916:: with SMTP id n22-v6mr2607708ljb.34.1535005824940; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 23:30:24 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: isar-users@googlegroups.com Received: by 2002:a19:175b:: with SMTP id n88-v6ls201420lfi.18.gmail; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 23:30:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA+uWPxgSYzY/8VdM9oXQPsNmSTa06P3CLjczIfzfBi1oI61cVoqOT3106uJFpTDkO86IdbDNKUm X-Received: by 2002:a19:5c8f:: with SMTP id u15-v6mr829907lfi.16.1535005824427; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 23:30:24 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1535005824; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=g/+Uw3c8YVRf+deizQElrDwbVfg4jOvwEHquQhl+KUhw8NSDcjqoGDiUxI3SHXxRyb lVkqMYXhCzt5rTkgzwYPuajNAG9ne7ayWrY4WfIn0MBk8iOVSP9OAvRO1gaUeRYikPHI nAB0osatWcYtPE7Znjt+EpExDJbpBD2NL4O4eoKKot6K93JmJVddSIkmpw4eYJ3fjlAo nj3dJFEqjK3ogIPcf8pGhf8JUGp8yuG76Xvg7orSmZQDar1zTEUBf4vy7VIt57Ogq44e 5opuLaJyDpnUPoo5SKkhZm4TaKsrIEKT4Yyn0OEwmmRiKfk3nv5RaryFft9A22O+sYLE 90uw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=user-agent:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:mime-version:mail-followup-to:message-id :subject:to:from:date:arc-authentication-results; bh=jBZ4PP21qZSjQo9ijKswz2iTTWjY0wlLv29H5YP0u5I=; b=Q8OUMcBrsSYdkkfMd3oz6UvpdusgwLvlvUelA786i7cWz6/kjJjliY+bwNJ0x2H3X+ uJSaQXReqhZmfzb6d4hSB/mcuiyuQg7RBEwssNgrdGeATy2HSr7a9Wfiv7xqGs+3gUvN WYplocQFxJSTDcp9CUQSWH7WHdcZ1teiXK6KPlZypREMkar4suLCdrf/I42Fr8s6gk0z 4ETdkj9ESBApFG0sAvB0d03+A9BFQBtZh9yFBdLWSDaJOYczRwnCHjPVsEcYc6cfNbl/ QJi/v/iUjYoQccfLk9LbIeN01z1p5r8QR1k9fXQdeA+wJx329d3FVPbd/UuEi8/XU9DZ Av4A== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of christian.storm@siemens.com designates 192.35.17.14 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=christian.storm@siemens.com Return-Path: Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de. [192.35.17.14]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y74-v6si103028lfd.5.2018.08.22.23.30.24 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 22 Aug 2018 23:30:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of christian.storm@siemens.com designates 192.35.17.14 as permitted sender) client-ip=192.35.17.14; Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of christian.storm@siemens.com designates 192.35.17.14 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=christian.storm@siemens.com Received: from mail3.siemens.de (mail3.siemens.de [139.25.208.14]) by david.siemens.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w7N6UNWd001954 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 08:30:23 +0200 Received: from localhost ([139.25.0.44]) by mail3.siemens.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w7N6UNhP005994 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 08:30:23 +0200 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 08:29:36 +0200 From: Christian Storm To: isar-users Subject: Re: Minimizing isar-image-base Message-ID: <20180823062936.rnjynpv7dorwywm7@MD1KR9XC.ww002.siemens.net> Mail-Followup-To: isar-users MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <16563606f48.27ac.034a6b0541ed39b7fb4e17f4ac219eaa@ilbers.de> User-Agent: Mutt/20170113 (1.7.2) X-TUID: eRehCySPduL4 Hi, > >>>> - Why do we pre-install dbus? > >>> > >>> Again, IIRC, without dbus there was dirty boot log in QEMU, some > >>> services failed to start. > >> > >> I'll recheck that with stretch. > > > > Removed it, but I'm not seeing any error messages nor does systemctl > > report failed services. > > Maybe the bug was solved in stretch. Christian, > > you said there is a harder dependency in reality than the "recommends" > > as Debian declares now. Any comments on this? > > > > If it is really no longer needed, we could push the dbus dependency into > > debian-jessie.conf. Is raspbian-jessie on systemd as well? Then there as > > well. > > One another thing changed since that time - migration from multistrap to > debootstrap. Probably this could be the reason. There was a bug when debootstrap'ing that you had to explicitly install dbus in order to make systemd happy and that was not reflected in the packages' dependencies, hence it broke. This might have been fixed upstream by now... Kind regards, Christian -- Dr. Christian Storm Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT RDA IOT SES-DE Otto-Hahn-Ring 6, 81739 M�nchen, Germany