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[192.35.17.2]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y200si1501739wmd.0.2019.01.18.01.05.24 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 18 Jan 2019 01:05:24 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of henning.schild@siemens.com designates 192.35.17.2 as permitted sender) client-ip=192.35.17.2; Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of henning.schild@siemens.com designates 192.35.17.2 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=henning.schild@siemens.com Received: from mail1.sbs.de (mail1.sbs.de [192.129.41.35]) by thoth.sbs.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x0I95O7g015224 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 18 Jan 2019 10:05:24 +0100 Received: from md1za8fc.ad001.siemens.net ([139.25.69.119]) by mail1.sbs.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x0I95NkV002522; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 10:05:24 +0100 Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 10:05:23 +0100 From: Henning Schild To: Baurzhan Ismagulov Cc: isar-users Subject: Re: https://github.com/ilbers/hello conflicts with upstream hello Message-ID: <20190118100523.43b9fd91@md1za8fc.ad001.siemens.net> In-Reply-To: <20190117165440.GL12226@yssyq.m.ilbers.de> References: <20190117160301.6928bd98@md1za8fc.ad001.siemens.net> <20190117152809.GK12226@yssyq.m.ilbers.de> <20190117171002.3b6dfdac@md1za8fc.ad001.siemens.net> <20190117165440.GL12226@yssyq.m.ilbers.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.0-dirty (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TUID: MCmvXWOce22N Am Thu, 17 Jan 2019 17:54:40 +0100 schrieb Baurzhan Ismagulov : > On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 05:10:02PM +0100, Henning Schild wrote: > > Yes, but conflicts that are known are mentioned in the metadata. > > (debian/control) > > So apt sees it before dpkg unpacks it and finds it. > > Conflicts: isn't the only way to handle various kinds of > interoperability problems that arise in a large distribution like > Debian. There are also diversions, which allow installing packages > with conflicting files by renaming them in a controlled way after > installation. > > > > I just sent a series that shows the problem. You can also see it if > > you IMAGE_INSTALL=example-hello and IMAGE_PREINSTALL=hello > > I see, thanks. > > I think we should use this opportunity to also rename the source > package to hello-isar to avoid conflicts with apt-get source hello. In that case is might also be a good idea to align the PN with the changed name. hello -> hello-isar and example-hello > hello-isar > > That or the metadata should know about the conflict. We can not > > change upstream metadata, maybe one side is good enough. > > Conflicts: on the Isar side would be enough to make the packages > incompatible, but apt-get installing example-hello after hello would > fail. > > > > One way or another. My series adds the feature to rebuild an > > upstream package, and hello is a very good example for that. A > > conflict would mean we could not test example-hello and hello in > > the same image, so avoiding the conflict will be useful for that > > case and not overkill. > > I agree that using upstream hello would be nice. An alternative could > be building e.g. arc for the time being. In parallel, Maxim has > started fixing example-hello. I'd prefer merging your code without > breaking example-hello. I am not in a hurry with that being merged. We could just drop the patch that currently removes example-hello from the build, after the renaming is done. Henning > > With kind regards, > Baurzhan. >