From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 6735330377709125632 X-Received: by 2002:ac2:51cd:: with SMTP id u13mr8498277lfm.135.1568363546019; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 01:32:26 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: isar-users@googlegroups.com Received: by 2002:a2e:9f50:: with SMTP id v16ls3320722ljk.1.gmail; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 01:32:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqx585CSduk09uZtmlbAM4n1RLX7uLA7R6xzpK9wJVdZzf09c+SoVIZWsFCBfHwoIq6NZO/r X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9948:: with SMTP id r8mr28476039ljj.231.1568363545444; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 01:32:25 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1568363545; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=DDLxKk7B0DgsjaGE3eTz7KhF573Owi2q3araYZOsDo8oSPOxn9ep7NCgOce6CCPt5O Jd5zBy0dwJ4ZtXhgIMQ4MKe0524QZ5+7lqAs8CD2BeYtaKGf6BFnBJoQ3KPYf27iGOFE OJwdTfnYQ4CiQvtM9gfybtdi5SLl+LaBCN2O1/x5T2oYazPcotE/iwfDmtsGFE5k9Bh5 7GfGGbHbCzu9TkzemBCmm5fSgS2u/gqOYUSHcH10GBWZFeSrbwAKBUK08pQTSlj0YdXF NN6JQRhHKmm7aPcxurRnaLujZiyBBZILvjPxX97D9SAIiECII9yiQOe2DR5N2tClYcf4 bkZg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=user-agent:in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version:references :mail-followup-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date; bh=+lJTuTASuu4XdtbChqHkptS/CjPu+H2XEd4JIXkS6kQ=; b=DqcZCP7stJETjSY1Y6Y569CjXUbVQ1lNNyxrpb9b8WwefJNLqiTgzygbTwO/Um6Lw7 kbzkEyhoAscalF0xAlhFuM0vDl463gUR1vbGCGuQMbJqaLJBCA8RdWTjWxD88i+cNA6Z Y/PIQY7eNuxrSiduKCboNLIAnWiGtFxWHOpkdWI2n4xXIMSkQuf/1b25q/9+XZUbJGmH JY1kKPeXiilnBB8BoDdjTz7fE0RC1KjSeezMVEYyaSgeg4jZrygwOvfrud2DYuajs79l LmJab1u1aVywPTLITE53hQ2pL4I+9ik0WG8JSij2y3XJYp0Uu1Z0PMMNGswlJQS8uaI7 C8wg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 85.214.156.166 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of ibr@radix50.net) smtp.mailfrom=ibr@radix50.net Return-Path: Received: from shymkent.ilbers.de (shymkent.ilbers.de. [85.214.156.166]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d3si1505401lfq.1.2019.09.13.01.32.24 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 13 Sep 2019 01:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 85.214.156.166 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of ibr@radix50.net) client-ip=85.214.156.166; Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 85.214.156.166 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of ibr@radix50.net) smtp.mailfrom=ibr@radix50.net Received: from yssyq.m.ilbers.de (host-80-81-17-52.static.customer.m-online.net [80.81.17.52]) (authenticated bits=0) by shymkent.ilbers.de (8.15.2/8.15.2/Debian-8) with ESMTPSA id x8D8WLE4023426 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 10:32:22 +0200 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 10:32:21 +0200 From: Baurzhan Ismagulov To: "isar-users@googlegroups.com" Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add support for supplying more types of debian package relationships Message-ID: <20190913083221.GK6062@yssyq.m.ilbers.de> Mail-Followup-To: "isar-users@googlegroups.com" References: <20190911084136.19731-1-konstantinos.dalamagkidis@siemens.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on shymkent.ilbers.de X-TUID: Bjz48Cp9BGgy On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 10:57:34AM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote: > One of the thing to consider while designing & enhancing the recipe API for > debianize: We should not create something that is as complex as writing > Debian control files directly - or even more complex than that. This is exactly the point. In my experience, new users tend to shy away from debianizing their applications, presumably because debhelper documentation is somewhat complicated -- at least I spent more time with the docs than with actual debianizing. So, people are tempted to use quick solutions, and my impression is that debianize.bbclass is a good helper here. It will get complicated as we cover more use cases, and using tons of variables to control the configuration is as simple as we can get it. We should gather experience with that, but I think it will still have its value as first debianizing aid. After one is past that step, we should recommend moving the debian control files from meta to the application in the manual. With kind regards, Baurzhan.