From: Henning Schild <henning.schild@siemens.com>
To: "[ext] Quirin Gylstorff" <quirin.gylstorff@siemens.com>
Cc: <isar-users@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: fakechroot
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2019 11:22:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190917112222.2adebb06@md1za8fc.ad001.siemens.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45b92ae7-08a1-3312-27ae-296b48f3517b@siemens.com>
Am Mon, 16 Sep 2019 10:38:44 +0200
schrieb "[ext] Quirin Gylstorff" <quirin.gylstorff@siemens.com>:
> On 9/13/19 2:11 PM, Baurzhan Ismagulov wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 12:57:45PM +0200, Quirin Gylstorff wrote:
> >> fakechroot, fakeroot and pseudo are all using a similar mechanism
> >> by modifying the LD_PRELOAD_PATH with there own Libraries and
> >> abstracting the necessary systemcalls. pseudo uses a sqlite
> >> Database to get a persistent view on the topic.
>
>
> >
> > Thanks, the persistent view was my actual question. I think we
> > should be looking at pseudo, since the tools without persistency
> > aren't going to work for our use case. Or do you see a possibility
> > for fakechroot fakeroot?
>
>
> If using fakeroot and fakechroot, debootstrap knows it is running in
> a fakeroot and adapts itself to this environment. From the previous
> test with pseudo it does not do that for pseudo[1].
>
> I did not test of pseudo runs with --variant=fakeroot.
>
> [1]
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/isar-users/WV0N4X2ZZMo/4EQI3c1wBQAJ
Debootstrap is just one "problem", and i think we had that running
without a privileged container or "root".
A full build involves potentially setting binfmt and running wic, which
brings in a lot of tools (filesystems, partitions, bootloaders). OE
knows them as "wtools_sysroot" and builds them with dynamic linking
(for the LD_PRELOAD trick).
But we use the ones from our target distro in buildchroot, and guess
what, they are essential system tools that are statically linked. So no
LD-messing with them ...
Lowering the privileges for some steps (like debootstrap) might be a
good idea, but i still do not see how to do a full Isar build without
root.
Henning
> > With kind regards,
> > Baurzhan.
> >
>
> Kind regards
> Quirin
>
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Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-09-13 8:00 fakechroot Quirin Gylstorff
2019-09-13 8:14 ` fakechroot Baurzhan Ismagulov
[not found] ` <8db6f5f1-8a36-768c-1b5d-0a0a3df866fb@siemens.com>
2019-09-13 9:33 ` fakechroot Baurzhan Ismagulov
2019-09-13 9:41 ` fakechroot Jan Kiszka
2019-09-13 9:51 ` fakechroot Baurzhan Ismagulov
2019-09-17 9:14 ` fakechroot Henning Schild
2019-09-17 9:52 ` fakechroot Jan Kiszka
2019-09-13 10:57 ` fakechroot Quirin Gylstorff
2019-09-13 12:11 ` fakechroot Baurzhan Ismagulov
2019-09-16 8:38 ` fakechroot Quirin Gylstorff
2019-09-17 9:22 ` Henning Schild [this message]
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