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From: "'MOESSBAUER, Felix' via isar-users" <isar-users@googlegroups.com>
To: "amikan@ilbers.de" <amikan@ilbers.de>,
	"isar-users@googlegroups.com" <isar-users@googlegroups.com>,
	"Kiszka, Jan" <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Cc: "ubely@ilbers.de" <ubely@ilbers.de>, "ibr@ilbers.de" <ibr@ilbers.de>
Subject: Re: sbuild race with sporadic build breakages
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:58:33 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3ae3bf411ce45c92fbad61e674bc6af08c8b0c2f.camel@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f8bc914c-0247-4b3d-80e3-d1ddab192e7d@siemens.com>

On Mon, 2024-11-11 at 16:56 +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 11.11.24 16:17, Anton Mikanovich wrote:
> > 11/11/2024 16:52, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> > > We could only lock known sessions against each other. But that
> > > would
> > > already help everything that runs in a CI runner, maybe in a kas-
> > > isar
> > > container. Not perfect but would probably address 99% of cases
> > > today.
> > > 
> > > Jan
> > > 
> > This will result in serialization of do_dpkg_build tasks and will
> > cause
> > Isar
> > slowdown.
> > 
> 
> OK, that was the information I was looking for - and was afraid of.
> 
> But even if your PR would be merged tomorrow (which is completely
> unpredictable right now), it would still require backports to
> bookworm
> at least, and those would need to be deployed locally or integrated
> into
> future versions of kas. All that is not going to happen soon - if at
> all. It may even be that only trixes schroot will have all what we
> need.

We have similar problems with apt and proper rate-limit handling. But
that's OT.

At a second thought I'm wondering if we should drop schroot at all and
use mmdebstrap + unshare. By that, the sbuild also does no longer
require root access. I'm running sbuild with unshare backend for some
time locally now (not with ISAR, though).

Felix

> 
> Can't we break up the calls to schroot into those that need looking
> and
> those that actually build so that, inside do_dpkg_build, we only lock
> certain commands, not the complete task?
> 
> Jan
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-11 17:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-23 17:08 Jan Kiszka
2024-05-24  7:26 ` MOESSBAUER, Felix
2024-05-24  8:08 ` Anton Mikanovich
2024-05-24  8:52   ` Jan Kiszka
2024-05-24  9:30     ` Anton Mikanovich
2024-05-24 10:42       ` Jan Kiszka
2024-05-24 11:55         ` Anton Mikanovich
2024-06-17  7:44           ` Jan Kiszka
2024-06-17  8:32             ` Baurzhan Ismagulov
2024-06-17 12:55               ` Jan Kiszka
2024-06-17 14:12                 ` Anton Mikanovich
2024-06-17 14:50                   ` Jan Kiszka
2024-06-24  8:00 ` Uladzimir Bely
2024-06-24  9:13   ` Jan Kiszka
2024-09-09 10:53 ` Anton Mikanovich
2024-10-01  7:35   ` 'Jan Kiszka' via isar-users
2024-11-11  9:31     ` 'Jan Kiszka' via isar-users
2024-11-11 10:44       ` Anton Mikanovich
2024-11-11 12:04         ` 'Jan Kiszka' via isar-users
2024-11-11 14:28           ` 'Jan Kiszka' via isar-users
2024-11-11 14:37             ` Anton Mikanovich
2024-11-11 14:52               ` 'Jan Kiszka' via isar-users
2024-11-11 15:17                 ` Anton Mikanovich
2024-11-11 15:56                   ` 'Jan Kiszka' via isar-users
2024-11-11 17:58                     ` 'MOESSBAUER, Felix' via isar-users [this message]
2024-11-11 19:48                       ` 'Jan Kiszka' via isar-users
2024-11-13  6:51                         ` 'MOESSBAUER, Felix' via isar-users
2024-11-13  7:00                           ` 'Jan Kiszka' via isar-users
2024-12-05 15:57                     ` Anton Mikanovich

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