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arc=pass (i=1 spf=pass spfdomain=siemens.com dkim=pass dkdomain=siemens.com dmarc=pass fromdomain=siemens.com); spf=pass (google.com: domain of felix.moessbauer@siemens.com designates 2a01:111:f403:c200::3 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=felix.moessbauer@siemens.com; dmarc=pass (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=siemens.com X-Original-From: "MOESSBAUER, Felix" Reply-To: "MOESSBAUER, Felix" Precedence: list Mailing-list: list isar-users@googlegroups.com; contact isar-users+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: isar-users@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 914930254986 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_MED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, RCVD_IN_RP_CERTIFIED,RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL,RCVD_IN_RP_SAFE,SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on shymkent.ilbers.de X-TUID: YgC73mVVnEKD On Wed, 2026-07-01 at 10:36 +0300, Anton Mikanovich wrote: > 30.06.2026 20:26, MOESSBAUER, Felix wrote: > > On Tue, 2026-06-30 at 18:36 +0300, Anton Mikanovich wrote: > > > On 30/06/2026 16:24, 'MOESSBAUER, Felix' via isar-users wrote: > > > > Dear isar-devs, > > > >=20 > > > > we noticed that cross-architecture offline builds are currently bro= ken > > > > and single-architecture offline builds differ from the online > > > > variant.=C2=A0One failure pattern is the following, whereby the off= line > > > > isar-mmdebstrap-host fails with an error message like this: > > > >=20 > > > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > > > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 libtext-wrapi18n-perl : Depends: libtext-charwi= dth-perl but it is not > > > > installable > > > > E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. > > > > E: The following information from --solver 3.0 may provide addition= al > > > > context: > > > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Unable to satisfy dependencies. Rea= ched two conflicting decisions: > > > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 1. libtext-wrapi18n-perl:amd64=3D0.= 06-10 is selected for install > > > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 2. libtext-wrapi18n-perl:amd64 Depe= nds libtext-charwidth-perl > > > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 but none of the c= hoices are installable: > > > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 [no choices] > > > >=20 > > > > The root cause for this is that we ignore the upstream's repo prior= ity > > > > overrides when creating the base-apt: reprepro includedeb records t= he > > > > priority from the .deb's own control field, and that becomes the > > > > priority published in base-apt's Packages index. > > > >=20 > > > > When these priorities differ, the set of packages installed in offl= ine > > > > mode are different from the ones in online mode. This per-se is pla= in > > > > wrong, but only surfaces if a now-required arch=3Dall package depen= ds on > > > > its architecture specific variant which never has been fetched (bec= ause > > > > the online bootstrap had access to the prio overrides). For non-cro= ss > > > > builds the result is also different, which can be checked by compar= ing > > > > the SBOMs. > > > >=20 > > > > There are HACKY ways to re-create the upstream priorities, but IMHO= our > > > > approach for offline builds is problematic and should be changed: > > > > Instead of explicitly recreating the base-apt repo, we better just > > > > preserve the upstream apt lists and inject our downloads/deb dir in= to > > > > the apt cache that is used by the build. This would allow us to > > > > completely drop the base-apt. > > > Issues like that supposed to be fixed by "Improving base-apt usage" > > > patchset. > > This rings a bell. Looks like the series could need a revival. > >=20 > > > It should address storing only needed packages, while DL_DIR is just = a > > > storage > > > for everything without storing any real packages state in it. > > > The idea is to have base-apt as an input, while isar-apt is used as a= n > > > output. > > I just checked the series, but this issue is not solved by it, as the > > apt lists are not cached but only the packages. This is exactly what > > breaks here: The packages have a different priority field than the apt > > list. > >=20 > > I'm wondering if a simpler solution is a pull-through cache, like many > > people use for cached building of containers (like here [1]). That > > let's apt take care of the caching instead of the surrounding build > > environment. > >=20 > > [1] > > https://github.com/siemens/kas/blob/81bab5294be29de4b64adedce962d36184b= fc66f/Dockerfile#L37 > >=20 > > > We will look into the issue, starting from reproducing it. > > It's easy to reproduce with these steps. You can even further reduce > > the set of packages to the bare minimum to reproduce faster. > Turns out not so easy: tried twice on clean setup with no luck so far. > Are there any other options or changes? Hi, you must start with an empty downloads folder. The libtext- charwidth-perl_0.04-11+b4_amd64.deb indicates that the isar-image-base was built for amd64. For debugging, I recommend to just build the bootstrap target for amd64 and check that the libtext-charwidth-perl_0.04-11+b4_arm64.deb is NOT in the downloads dir. Once that is confirmed, please retry the steps from below. Felix >=20 > Here are debs in downloads after the build (on next b90b722f, default=20 > debian-trixie): > libtext-wrapi18n-perl_0.06-10_all.deb > libtext-charwidth-perl_0.04-11+b4_amd64.deb > libtext-charwidth-perl_0.04-11+b4_arm64.deb > >=20 > > > > Reproducer: > > > >=20 > > > > 1. kas-container menu, select qemuarm64 machine, build > > > > 2. mv build build-online && mkdir build && cp -rf build- > > > > online/downloads build/ > > > > 3. kas-container build .config.yaml:offline.yml > > > >=20 > > > > offline.yml: > > > > header: > > > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 version: 14 > > > > local_conf_header: > > > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 offline: | > > > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ISAR_USE_CACHED_BASE_REPO =3D= "1" > > > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 BB_NO_NETWORK =3D "1" > > > Do we need such an option in kas menu? > > Probably? :) At least I did not see this option, but the variables are > > documented. > >=20 > > Felix >=20 > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "isar-users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an= email to isar-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/isar-user= s/6de97274-3f2c-4b62-a7e9-82f6e1f2c338%40ilbers.de. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= isar-users" group. 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