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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: "Bezdeka, Florian" <florian.bezdeka@siemens.com>,
	"Lisicki, Raphael" <raphael.lisicki@siemens.com>,
	"isar-users@googlegroups.com" <isar-users@googlegroups.com>,
	Quirin Gylstorff <quirin.gylstorff@siemens.com>
Subject: Re: expand-on-first-boot and surprising umounts
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 18:38:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4535d7d7-359a-0cf6-633b-2ca06c3cee8a@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <24d5c73e-9a74-fcd6-f6a5-0ee86a95e095@siemens.com>

On 21.10.22 15:05, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 21.10.22 11:41, Bezdeka, Florian wrote:
>> On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 11:36 +0200, Raphael Lisicki wrote:
>>>
>>> On 21.10.22 10:45, Bezdeka, Florian (T CED SES-DE) wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 09:48 +0200, Raphael Lisicki wrote:
>>>>> Hi everybody,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am using a debian bullseye based system and use expand-on-first-boot
>>>>> to expand the last partition. It is not the root file system but an
>>>>> extra ext4 partition to be mounted under /data. The mounting happens
>>>>> after expand-on-first boot has succeeded.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sometimes, on some builds more often than others, /data gets (attempted
>>>>> to be) umounted immediately after being mounted and subsequent units
>>>>> will fail.
>>>>
>>>> Hm... Nothing happens on build time. Everything takes place on the
>>>> "first" boot (until expand-on-first-boot disables itself). "more often"
>>>> is also confusing me because expand-on-first-boot should run exactly
>>>> once.
>>>
>>> Yes, it runs on first boot, but I can use the very same original image 
>>> multiple times (after restoring it). And I can also try the same with 
>>> other builds (doing a first boot) and some builds seem to be more often 
>>> affected than others. My guess from this is that the exact 
>>> alignment/size/padding/moon phase of some things in the image also plays 
>>> a role.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Removing expand-on-first-boot resolves the issue, so does adding
>>>>> "ExecStartPost=/usr/bin/udevadm settle" to expand-on-first-boot but I am
>>>>> not sure if this is only a sophisticated way of solving a race condition
>>>>> with "sleep".
>>>>>
>>>>> My gut feeling is that after expand-on-first boot finishes, the kernel
>>>>> still processes block device events, which systemd gets after /data has
>>>>> already been mounted and then cause it to be umounted, as systemd was
>>>>> already picky with umounting stuff in the past [1]. Unfortunately I have
>>>>> no idea how to test this hypothesis.
>>>>
>>>> Nothing should be mounted (except the rootfs) until expand-on-first
>>>> completed. See below.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Did anyone already experience something like this? The racy-ness of the
>>>>> issue makes creating a minimal reproduction hard.
>>>>
>>>> Nope, have never seen that, but that doesn't mean that there is no
>>>> race.
>>>>
>>>> We have
>>>>
>>>> After=systemd-remount-fs.service
>>>> Before=local-fs-pre.target shutdown.target
>>>> ConditionPathIsReadWrite=/etc
>>>>
>>>> inside the expand-on-first-boot.service file.
>>>>
>>>> So we should be done before systemd tries to mount your /data
>>>> (according to Before=) and start after systemd did remounting in case
>>>> mount options (ro, rw, ...) have to be adjusted.
>>>>
>>>> I guess you should check your startup order (systemd-analyze might
>>>> help) and report back if we missed something.
>>>
>>> systemd-analyze shows exactly what you described: after 
>>> expand-on-first-boot has finished, /data gets mounted (and immedeately 
>>> umounted again).
>>
>> OK, so you have to figure out why this happens. Hopefully there are
>> some logs available...
>>
>> What file system is on your /data partition? What is the initial size
>> and the full-blown size?
>>
> 
> This pattern rings a bell, I've seen something like this on the IOT2050
> as well. I'm still looking for the hack that worked around it, maybe
> Quirin recalls that more quickly. And I think that hack was obsoleted
> when we moved to r/o-rootfs and overlays...
> 

I didn't find the workaround, but we also played with udev settle and
various delays.

I recall our theory that a delayed device removal/replug event from the
kernel after the partition table manipulation of expand-on-first-boot
may confuse systemd to unmount but not remount the data partition again.

Jan

-- 
Siemens AG, Technology
Competence Center Embedded Linux


  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-21 16:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-21  7:48 Raphael Lisicki
2022-10-21  8:45 ` Bezdeka, Florian
2022-10-21  9:36   ` Raphael Lisicki
2022-10-21  9:41     ` Bezdeka, Florian
2022-10-21 13:05       ` Jan Kiszka
2022-10-21 16:38         ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2022-10-27 14:36           ` Raphael Lisicki
2022-10-21 16:24       ` Raphael Lisicki
2022-10-21 11:15 ` Henning Schild
2022-10-21 15:41 ` Roberto A. Foglietta
2022-10-21 16:15   ` Bezdeka, Florian
2022-10-21 17:35     ` Roberto A. Foglietta

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