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spf=pass (google.com: domain of felix.moessbauer@siemens.com designates 2a01:111:f403:c201::6 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=felix.moessbauer@siemens.com; dmarc=pass (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=siemens.com X-Original-From: "MOESSBAUER, Felix" Reply-To: "MOESSBAUER, Felix" Precedence: list Mailing-list: list isar-users@googlegroups.com; contact isar-users+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: isar-users@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 914930254986 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_MED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, RCVD_IN_RP_CERTIFIED,RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL,RCVD_IN_RP_SAFE,SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on shymkent.ilbers.de X-TUID: uv2SAQkMyPi6 On Wed, 2026-04-29 at 14:45 +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote: > On 29.04.26 13:40, Moessbauer, Felix (FT RPD CED OES-DE) wrote: > > On Wed, 2026-04-29 at 13:26 +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote: > > > On 29.04.26 13:10, Moessbauer, Felix (FT RPD CED OES-DE) wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2026-04-29 at 12:55 +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote: > > > > > On 29.04.26 12:53, Jan Kiszka wrote: > > > > > > On 29.04.26 12:47, 'Felix Moessbauer' via isar-users wrote: > > > > > > > Architecture all packages often cannot be built in cross mode, as the > > > > > > > dependencies cannot be resolved in the host architecture. This > > > > > > > especially applies to all packages which split their build dependencies > > > > > > > into Build-Depends-Arch and Build-Depends-Indep. We already have logic > > > > > > > in isar to built DPKG_ARCH=all packages non-cross, but this does not > > > > > > > work for packages that generate both arch specific and arch all binary > > > > > > > packages. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While sbuild automatically disables builds of arch-all packages on > > > > > > > cross, we previously explicitly overrode this setting. We now change > > > > > > > this by explicitly setting --no-arch-all flag on cross and --arch-all on > > > > > > > non-cross. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Felix Moessbauer > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > RECIPE-API-CHANGELOG.md | 15 +++++++++++++++ > > > > > > > meta/classes-recipe/dpkg.bbclass | 3 ++- > > > > > > > 2 files changed, 17 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > diff --git a/RECIPE-API-CHANGELOG.md b/RECIPE-API-CHANGELOG.md > > > > > > > index 856da5de..c83c1599 100644 > > > > > > > --- a/RECIPE-API-CHANGELOG.md > > > > > > > +++ b/RECIPE-API-CHANGELOG.md > > > > > > > @@ -1001,3 +1001,18 @@ do_copy_boot_files: The recipe isar-image-base is trying to install > > > > > > > files into a shared area when those files already exists. It happens > > > > > > > when some files have the same names (e.g., dtb files) for different > > > > > > > distros. > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > +### No building of arch=all packages when cross building > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > +Architecture all packages often cannot be built in cross mode, as the > > > > > > > +dependencies cannot be resolved in the foreign architecture. This especially > > > > > > > +applies to all packages which split their build dependencies into > > > > > > > +`Build-Depends-Arch` and `Build-Depends-Indep`. We already have logic > > > > > > > +in isar to built `DPKG_ARCH = "all"` packages non-cross, but this does not > > > > > > > +work for packages that generate both arch specific and arch all binary packages. > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > +We now explicitly disable building arch=all binary packages on cross (this > > > > > > > +technically only affects packages that generate arch specific and arch=all > > > > > > > +binary packages). To build the arch=all binary packages of such source packages, > > > > > > > +add an explicit dependency to `${BPN}-native`. Source packages that only > > > > > > > > > > > > That will be fun to find, though likely a rare one. Can't we detect such > > > > > > cases in Isar and add a bitbake dependency from $BPN to -native? > > > > > > > > We could try to parse the ${S}/debian/control file and detect this, but > > > > I guess that doesn't work, as we would have to add the dependency > > > > before running bitbake tasks (a common case is that the debian part is > > > > fetched, hence the task need to run and then it's too late). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In fact, -native is practically overshooting. We would need a recipe > > > > > target that only build the all package. > > > > > > > > I thought about this as well. We would need a -all variant that is > > > > basically identical to -native but adds the --no-arch-any sbuild flag. > > > > However, this only helps for first-stage dependencies, as the > > > > transitive dependencies still need to be build in -native. Further, we > > > > need to ensure that either -all or -native is built, but not both. This > > > > would need a model similar to the fetch_common_source task. That's a > > > > lot of complexity for a minimal build-time improvement. By that, I > > > > rather would like to avoid this optimization. If we really need it, we > > > > still can add it in the future. > > > > > > The key question is how to ensure that people will find this highly > > > non-intuitive recipe dependency. We need to explain this even harder > > > than the difference between IMAGE_INSTALL and IMAGE_PREINSTALL. > > > > > > BTW, it also affects how recipe writers have to translate their binary > > > output packages into PROVIDES statements. If you do that incorrectly, > > > unconditionally, the mess will only get bigger. > > > > That's an interesting finding. If you model the PROVIDES correctly, you > > don't have to add the explicit RDEPENDS to the -native variant. This is > > what we should document instead of the -native dependency. > > > > Better test it - I bet there will be further devils in the detail. While adding a test, I noticed that this does not work: When building the -all packages only from the native recipe, these are only added to the HOST_ARCH repository, but not to the DISTRO_ARCH repo. By that, they cannot be installed into the image. > > > Will do so in a v2, once I have more feedback. > > > > I'm afraid we are not stable with this approach yet. Yes, this needs more redesign. Probably we need a :class-all that then deploys to its own repo which is consumed both by the host repo and the distro repo. Felix > > Jan > > -- > Siemens AG, Foundational Technologies > Linux Expert Center -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "isar-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to isar-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/isar-users/52a14bfd156498e1f2112e12f087cfeede97a498.camel%40siemens.com.