From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 6656685609396994048 X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:3286:: with SMTP id 6mr943437ejw.10.1549889439533; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 04:50:39 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: isar-users@googlegroups.com Received: by 2002:a17:906:3555:: with SMTP id s21ls1283087eja.3.gmail; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 04:50:39 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AHgI3IYNqIe5GdkWEVyy/haNyYciAGEo4WAFG3mbhRzz5BbnQUsICec8j/+gBc/SOfSeMfg9lCSg X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:656:: with SMTP id t22mr288121ejb.4.1549889439019; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 04:50:39 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1549889439; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=xse5p2ezF86KTMOxPWfFbXz7tXTr5YmPPgVQ7NMDjQV3jcYB1fK81MAlYaIU/8dHBa wDUM5DwmJMdbDcQmdNlSL3zm7ArbK4d6HXxSUZiC4pcRkgLpIoHcEmZyMKDJKC8qIpLn Jl92AfZ5pM/4feuJxu0V1B9sQsJc/Z8dQsWQliTuNEldnbTZMJP2YKTjo16zMKLjVOC6 kzTWSDsbPGelbXOSa0U3j0DY4g5HMAPzvhgMezjsZXUBzEPXhSVQQybEaMwetglbK9Am aW8JgDvK45xvBttpnEwzPYSnR0ulbZCy7KhpOKe3PVuQtJfBXg6tX2fCTFkezl/5pRHD MVHA== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-language:in-reply-to:mime-version :user-agent:date:message-id:from:references:to:subject; bh=oSRYkDFKr7clcqxO4Y+aB802puFUwQEzd9B+984PuHU=; b=dMfZcjPuiKAD8ngPfQnD7ZV2Te8OdqhmdsMGmfKM/a+8fFGTDovIj34JeHM72jy3ru lg2CKlXQIRzRjRqtOGKv5UGU2uwc4wbTnotkQYkFoPWx1bCyK9uI4swp+jyeHPJNBN1+ c1YGDnK8cGj7scRtF+Ky7EZuQcBO+XuIIojVY5X9cxm4vhg/fZ0bOXwz00NjkjU5boPW YC4zwjkOm6gGCCsmXCFl9p9WUgy4KvgpGJPwhy5V6cSrAKa8V+Q2bB7xkq3gmxBlOuJN 8YTHZusRjA50ju3yqXDccDsqnJb3uQd1AdPajODEiEpnj8iUGN8+EhC5BG9x4dgx1h3J +agw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jan.kiszka@siemens.com designates 194.138.37.40 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jan.kiszka@siemens.com Return-Path: Received: from gecko.sbs.de (gecko.sbs.de. [194.138.37.40]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m24si493227edc.3.2019.02.11.04.50.38 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 11 Feb 2019 04:50:38 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jan.kiszka@siemens.com designates 194.138.37.40 as permitted sender) client-ip=194.138.37.40; Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jan.kiszka@siemens.com designates 194.138.37.40 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jan.kiszka@siemens.com Received: from mail1.sbs.de (mail1.sbs.de [192.129.41.35]) by gecko.sbs.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x1BCoc6A000383 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 13:50:38 +0100 Received: from [139.25.68.37] (md1q0hnc.ad001.siemens.net [139.25.68.37] (may be forged)) by mail1.sbs.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x1BCocIE023178; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 13:50:38 +0100 Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Issues, ToDo and Roadmap To: "[ext] Claudius Heine" , isar-users References: From: Jan Kiszka Message-ID: <5450adad-0eeb-f569-c147-fb1af4f382d3@siemens.com> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 13:50:37 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); de; rv:1.8.1.12) Gecko/20080226 SUSE/2.0.0.12-1.1 Thunderbird/2.0.0.12 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TUID: pRnz027lH+VA On 11.02.19 11:19, [ext] Claudius Heine wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to open a discussion about how we could improve the organization of > Isar in regards to the projects short, mid and long term goals e.g. annoyances > to be fixed, features to be implemented and bigger designs to work towards. > > We currently only have two public ways of communication, one of which is not > maintained. Those are the mailing list and the github issue tracker. > > Mailing lists are great for open discussions and patches, but is a pretty fast > moving medium and old discussions are no longer looked at and even get forgotten > at some point so it might be sensible to put the results of discussions > somewhere more persistent, search and with state tracking. Like a ticket system, > issue tracker or wiki... > > The github issue tracker of Isar is in a very sorry state. Some of those open > issues are no longer applicable or already fixed. Maybe we could reactivate that > and have some more moderators to keep that up to date? > > Maybe have employ some bots to improve the short comings of the issue trackern > and integrate the ML with it better? > > What do you think? I would start with something simple: If we think the issue tracker is an appropriate way to handle to-dos, let's clean it up first and use it. Then, if we do not run into the same state as today after a while again, we can think about improving its integration (if there is something that can be enabled with reasonable effort). Jan -- Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT RDA IOT SES-DE Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux