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[85.214.156.166]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z79si632031wmc.2.2019.02.18.02.29.18 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 18 Feb 2019 02:29:18 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mosipov@ilbers.de designates 85.214.156.166 as permitted sender) client-ip=85.214.156.166; Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mosipov@ilbers.de designates 85.214.156.166 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mosipov@ilbers.de Received: from [192.168.50.163] (d51A48A80.access.telenet.be [81.164.138.128]) (authenticated bits=0) by shymkent.ilbers.de (8.15.2/8.15.2/Debian-8) with ESMTPSA id x1IATHY0013289 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 18 Feb 2019 11:29:17 +0100 Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Upcoming ISAR release To: Claudius Heine , isar-users References: <96e3ec90-3a4d-dcb0-1645-725d5d7d7094@siemens.com> From: "Maxim Yu. Osipov" Organization: ilbers GmbH Message-ID: <55b9ae17-4e39-7f65-2a0e-29b8173c814e@ilbers.de> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 11:29:23 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <96e3ec90-3a4d-dcb0-1645-725d5d7d7094@siemens.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on shymkent.ilbers.de X-TUID: /GGvgSEbkeXx Hi Claudius, Thanks for the feedback. OK, let's focus for v0.7 release for now. On 2/18/19 10:58 AM, Claudius Heine wrote: > Hi Maxim, > > On 18/02/2019 10.01, Maxim Yu. Osipov wrote: >> Hello everybody, >> >> Last release (v0.6) was made on 1st of October 2018. >> >> We plan to release the next version of ISAR on 1st of March, 2019. >> >> BTW, what do you think about making a 1.0 release? > > IMO we need a lot more cleanup stuff before we can do a solid 1.0 release. > > We should make a list of issues that should be done before 1.0 release. > > Here is a suggested checklist before 1.0: > >  - Remove jessie support That's a point which I don't understand - yes, we don't support jessie as a host system, but why don't continue to support jessie based targets if this doesn't require big efforts? Industrial programming is very conservative in this point (that's why all these https://www.cip-project.org/ serve for). >  - Improve documentation >  - Cleanup the user interface variables >    - Consistent variable nameing style naming ;) >    - Use feature variables instead of many VAR="1" ones. They can be > more easily bundled together in code and docs. I vaguely remember this discussion. Could you please provide arguments why we will benefit from that? >  - Consistent and clear naming of things >    - Build, host, target in line with GCC and Debian definition Could this renaming confuse current Isar users? >    - meta, meta-isar -> either meta and meta-example or meta-isar and > meta-isar-example. Currently 'meta-isar' sounds like it is required. >  - Clearly defined task pipeline for all recipe types >    - no more do_build with stuff in it, that should be treated a the > default target not some real one >    - dpkg_runbuild should be a task with postfunc and prefunc > attributes to wrap mounts around it >  - Cleanup meta-isar layer to show best practices of using isar >    - multiconfig should not contain other variables than DISTRO and > MACHINE > > I am sure I will find a lot more of those if I think a bit harder about > it. All of those issues makes adopting Isar for new, OE or Debian people > alike very difficult. With the 1.0 we should try to bring Isar to a > level were we don't expect many breaking changes on the next 1.1 release. > >> At the moment I'm busy with testing/applying pending patches, I plan >> to finish this activity in a couple of days and make a first release >> candidate and code freeze (only bug fixes will be applied in the >> 'next') after that. > > Shouldn't we open a release staging branch for that, so that feature > submissions can continue to next? Does it makes sense for now with the release cycle taking one week? Thanks, Maxim. > > Cheers, > Claudius > >> I'll submit later Changelog describing major changes since the last >> release and sort out the issues present on the project's wiki. >> >> Please inform me about any open issues that may be a subject to >> postpone a release. > > > -- Maxim Osipov ilbers GmbH Maria-Merian-Str. 8 85521 Ottobrunn Germany +49 (151) 6517 6917 mosipov@ilbers.de http://ilbers.de/ Commercial register Munich, HRB 214197 General Manager: Baurzhan Ismagulov