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My guess is that the problem >>>> can be reproduced in a ubuntu container (where the no-docs stuff is >>>> coming from), and can be used to report an issue so that the >>>> update-alternatives script looks for the files conditionally. Or >>>> maybe write a patch for that package and MR it on salsa directly. >>>> >>>> If you are installing java you probably can store a few MB of docs >>>> ;) >>> >>> Yeah, the case that triggered that is a bug, not a real scenario. I'm >>> lacking a feeling how common that combination is and if there might be >>> realistic combinations as well. >> >> My guess is that it would be best to try and mainline that package >> right into debian. They could use it for their containers, offer it for >> their users and will maintain the list of conflicts or detect such bugs. > > It's not only an ISAR issue. > Just try to install openjdk-11-jre-headless on a debian:buster-slim image to reproduce it. > > I'll report the bug on the Debian openjdk package, since the images being provided by Docker can be considered the de-facto standard (even provided by Debian maintainers Tianon Gravi [1] and Paul Tagliamonte [2]). No need to do it: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=955619 :-) I wonder if the initial issue was the installation of openjdk on a container image generated with ISAR or on the host installation. I suspect that it's in the host and we've faced it only due to the regression I introduced :-( If we really need the installation on a container image, then there's a fix proposal in the Debian bug that we might need to apply on openjdk. Silvano > > I'd rather wait for them to react to it before deciding which way we go. > > Curious about how those images are being created? See here: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fdebuerreotype%2Fdebuerreotype&data=04%7C01%7Csilvano.cirujano-cuesta%40siemens.com%7C3abb71e1f482453b80e008d8fd8f9a9b%7C38ae3bcd95794fd4addab42e1495d55a%7C1%7C0%7C637538140518927690%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=yG9G6p%2FL3KavzwYQB0lsyRp5VSG0ylnZmZFy7ppo54g%3D&reserved=0 > > Silvano > > [1] https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fqa.debian.org%2Fdeveloper.php%3Flogin%3Dtianon&data=04%7C01%7Csilvano.cirujano-cuesta%40siemens.com%7C3abb71e1f482453b80e008d8fd8f9a9b%7C38ae3bcd95794fd4addab42e1495d55a%7C1%7C0%7C637538140518927690%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=WBxXswRJaurv%2BQUukatMQw61kP0m6c6%2BsoitiCh5LQs%3D&reserved=0 > [2] https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fqa.debian.org%2Fdeveloper.php%3Flogin%3Dpaultag&data=04%7C01%7Csilvano.cirujano-cuesta%40siemens.com%7C3abb71e1f482453b80e008d8fd8f9a9b%7C38ae3bcd95794fd4addab42e1495d55a%7C1%7C0%7C637538140518927690%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=s4HIASCcpLTXNuZnDDOI%2BqrIhzrGLx6RAcd8WdK3u7U%3D&reserved=0 > >> >> As far as i remember the configs came from ubuntu, not sure they have >> it packaged or just smuggle it into their containers. >> >> That said, i bet there are packages that have runtime deps on (their) >> docs. Doc readers or applications that opt for cat ing a file on >> --help, probably not made up ... >> >> Henning >> >>> Jan >>> >>>> Henning >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Jan >>>>> >>>>> [1] >>>>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fg%2Fisar-users%2Fc%2FuIHgzvCGLwU%2Fm%2FtuOchY6BAgAJ&data=04%7C01%7Csilvano.cirujano-cuesta%40siemens.com%7C3abb71e1f482453b80e008d8fd8f9a9b%7C38ae3bcd95794fd4addab42e1495d55a%7C1%7C0%7C637538140518927690%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=kbA93XVRKColo6QKgCgdxNNgzmZMLlTIjgIJ1oPkEAU%3D&reserved=0 >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >