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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Claudius Heine <ch@denx.de>, Harald Seiler <hws@denx.de>,
	Henning Schild <henning.schild@siemens.com>
Cc: isar-users@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] image: Run copy_boot_files after rootfs postprocessing
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 11:12:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5a86e555-416e-d788-2655-003403f1d190@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a1a65fd2-764a-d621-ffc8-9b0a6ce879fb@denx.de>

On 26.06.20 09:17, Claudius Heine wrote:
> Hi Harald,
> 
> On 2020-06-25 19:24, Harald Seiler wrote:
>> Hello Henning,
>>
>> On Thu, 2020-06-25 at 19:02 +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>> On 25.06.20 18:48, [ext] Henning Schild wrote:
>>>> Hi Harald,
>>>>
>>>> can you elaborate on those cases? The postprocessing is hacky, if the
>>>> problem is coming from your layer you should probably keep this patch
>>>> in you layer.
>>>
>>> Basically do_generate_image_uuid from
>>> https://lore.kernel.org/cip-dev/20200625141015.31719-4-Quirin.Gylstorff@siemens.com/T/#u,
>>> just modeled as post-processing hook, rather than a task.
>>
>> For reference, this is the exact code:
>>
>>      ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND =+ "image_postprocess_generate_uuid"
>>      image_postprocess_generate_uuid() {
>>          sudo sed -i '/^IMAGE_UUID=.*/d' '${IMAGE_ROOTFS}/etc/os-release'
>>          echo "IMAGE_UUID=\"${IMAGE_UUID}\"" | \
>>              sudo tee -a '${IMAGE_ROOTFS}/etc/os-release'
>>
>>          sudo -E chroot '${ROOTFSDIR}' \
>>              update-initramfs -u
>>      }
>>
>>> Jan
>>>
>>>> Maybe you can point out an issue in isar itself, or explain how you got
>>>> into this situation? We can then see if your change is generic enough
>>>> for upstream. You could also provide the error-case from your layer as
>>>> an upstream feature, if that is generic enough.
>>
>> I think this patch addresses an issue in isar itself.  There is no reason
>> for copy_boot_files() to run before the postprocessing does.  I've checked
>> through the git history and the reason this relationship was introduced
>> was a bigger refactor of the task dependency chain.  It does not seem to
>> be intentionally this way from what I can tell.
>>
>> The other way around makes more sense, in my opinion.  As stated in the
>> commit message, postprocessing might do an update to the initramfs (as
>> seen above) and this change needs to be reflected in the deployed
>> initramfs as well, instead of silently only living in the version that is
>> part of the rootfs.
>>
>> I also checked all existing postprocessing commands and did not see any
>> that assume to be run after the boot files have been deployed.
> 
> Its been a while when I implemented this, but I also thought of the
> scenario where someone would like to 'minimize' a image via the root fs
> postprocessing by deleting everything that is not needed, and that could
> possible include the kernel + initramfs, if those are stored somewhere
> else outside the root file system. So the idea was, IIRC, to move the
> kernel and initrd to the deploy dir, out of harms way, before
> postprocessing does its rootfs manipulation.
> 
> So by ordering the copy_boot_files behind the root fs post processing,
> you might break other layers that rely on this ordering and have such
> 'minimization' procedures, that remove the kernel package and specific
> files.
> 
> We don't have such 'minimization' stuff in upstream isar, since it
> pretty much breaks apt and dpkg, but if you do image based update, you
> might not care.

I think the problem with this pattern is elsewhere: We should not 
install stuff on the rootfs in the first place that shall not end up in 
the rootfs. That this copy_boot_files thing depends on the installation 
on the rootfs is actually a bug. It should use the chroot for its work, 
like the imager does (for the bootloader e.g.).

Jan

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Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-06-26  9:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-25 15:33 Harald Seiler
2020-06-25 16:48 ` Henning Schild
2020-06-25 17:02   ` Jan Kiszka
2020-06-25 17:24     ` Harald Seiler
2020-06-25 18:43       ` Henning Schild
2020-06-25 19:23         ` Henning Schild
2020-06-25 19:27           ` Henning Schild
2020-06-26  8:13             ` Harald Seiler
2020-06-26  8:19               ` Jan Kiszka
2020-06-26  8:26               ` Henning Schild
2020-06-26  8:44                 ` Jan Kiszka
2020-06-26  9:15                   ` Henning Schild
2020-06-26  7:17       ` Claudius Heine
2020-06-26  8:02         ` Harald Seiler
2020-06-26  9:12         ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2020-06-29  9:04           ` Claudius Heine
2020-06-29  9:13             ` Jan Kiszka
2020-06-29 12:22           ` Harald Seiler
2020-06-29 12:41             ` Jan Kiszka
2020-06-29 12:55               ` Henning Schild
2020-06-29 13:25                 ` Jan Kiszka
2020-07-01  8:29               ` Claudius Heine
2020-10-13 10:19 ` Jan Kiszka
2020-10-13 10:26   ` Harald Seiler
2020-10-13 10:35     ` Jan Kiszka

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