From: Harald Seiler <hws@denx.de>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>, Claudius Heine <ch@denx.de>
Cc: isar-users@googlegroups.com, Henning Schild <henning.schild@siemens.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] image: Run copy_boot_files after rootfs postprocessing
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2020 14:22:03 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6bd78ab80bde335821d792046ad2803e4bc9bb57.camel@denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5a86e555-416e-d788-2655-003403f1d190@siemens.com>
Hi Jan,
On Fri, 2020-06-26 at 11:12 +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 26.06.20 09:17, Claudius Heine wrote:
> > Hi Harald,
> >
> > On 2020-06-25 19:24, Harald Seiler wrote:
> > > Hello Henning,
> > >
> > > On Thu, 2020-06-25 at 19:02 +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> > > > On 25.06.20 18:48, [ext] Henning Schild wrote:
> > > > > Hi Harald,
> > > > >
> > > > > can you elaborate on those cases? The postprocessing is hacky, if the
> > > > > problem is coming from your layer you should probably keep this patch
> > > > > in you layer.
> > > >
> > > > Basically do_generate_image_uuid from
> > > > https://lore.kernel.org/cip-dev/20200625141015.31719-4-Quirin.Gylstorff@siemens.com/T/#u,
> > > > just modeled as post-processing hook, rather than a task.
> > >
> > > For reference, this is the exact code:
> > >
> > > ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND =+ "image_postprocess_generate_uuid"
> > > image_postprocess_generate_uuid() {
> > > sudo sed -i '/^IMAGE_UUID=.*/d' '${IMAGE_ROOTFS}/etc/os-release'
> > > echo "IMAGE_UUID=\"${IMAGE_UUID}\"" | \
> > > sudo tee -a '${IMAGE_ROOTFS}/etc/os-release'
> > >
> > > sudo -E chroot '${ROOTFSDIR}' \
> > > update-initramfs -u
> > > }
> > >
> > > > Jan
> > > >
> > > > > Maybe you can point out an issue in isar itself, or explain how you got
> > > > > into this situation? We can then see if your change is generic enough
> > > > > for upstream. You could also provide the error-case from your layer as
> > > > > an upstream feature, if that is generic enough.
> > >
> > > I think this patch addresses an issue in isar itself. There is no reason
> > > for copy_boot_files() to run before the postprocessing does. I've checked
> > > through the git history and the reason this relationship was introduced
> > > was a bigger refactor of the task dependency chain. It does not seem to
> > > be intentionally this way from what I can tell.
> > >
> > > The other way around makes more sense, in my opinion. As stated in the
> > > commit message, postprocessing might do an update to the initramfs (as
> > > seen above) and this change needs to be reflected in the deployed
> > > initramfs as well, instead of silently only living in the version that is
> > > part of the rootfs.
> > >
> > > I also checked all existing postprocessing commands and did not see any
> > > that assume to be run after the boot files have been deployed.
> >
> > Its been a while when I implemented this, but I also thought of the
> > scenario where someone would like to 'minimize' a image via the root fs
> > postprocessing by deleting everything that is not needed, and that could
> > possible include the kernel + initramfs, if those are stored somewhere
> > else outside the root file system. So the idea was, IIRC, to move the
> > kernel and initrd to the deploy dir, out of harms way, before
> > postprocessing does its rootfs manipulation.
> >
> > So by ordering the copy_boot_files behind the root fs post processing,
> > you might break other layers that rely on this ordering and have such
> > 'minimization' procedures, that remove the kernel package and specific
> > files.
> >
> > We don't have such 'minimization' stuff in upstream isar, since it
> > pretty much breaks apt and dpkg, but if you do image based update, you
> > might not care.
>
> I think the problem with this pattern is elsewhere: We should not
> install stuff on the rootfs in the first place that shall not end up in
> the rootfs. That this copy_boot_files thing depends on the installation
> on the rootfs is actually a bug. It should use the chroot for its work,
> like the imager does (for the bootloader e.g.).
For kernel and DTB I am totally on your side but I'm not sure how you
would want to do this for the initramfs. I think the initramfs should
definitely be generated from the 'real' rootfs because otherwise you might
get packages from chroot 'polluting' it in unexpected ways. Also,
considering the IMAGE_UUID use-case in particular, how would you get the
ID from the rootfs into the chroot for the hook to pick it up? Not sure
whether there is a clean solution for this ...
--
Harald
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-06-29 12:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-06-25 15:33 Harald Seiler
2020-06-25 16:48 ` Henning Schild
2020-06-25 17:02 ` Jan Kiszka
2020-06-25 17:24 ` Harald Seiler
2020-06-25 18:43 ` Henning Schild
2020-06-25 19:23 ` Henning Schild
2020-06-25 19:27 ` Henning Schild
2020-06-26 8:13 ` Harald Seiler
2020-06-26 8:19 ` Jan Kiszka
2020-06-26 8:26 ` Henning Schild
2020-06-26 8:44 ` Jan Kiszka
2020-06-26 9:15 ` Henning Schild
2020-06-26 7:17 ` Claudius Heine
2020-06-26 8:02 ` Harald Seiler
2020-06-26 9:12 ` Jan Kiszka
2020-06-29 9:04 ` Claudius Heine
2020-06-29 9:13 ` Jan Kiszka
2020-06-29 12:22 ` Harald Seiler [this message]
2020-06-29 12:41 ` Jan Kiszka
2020-06-29 12:55 ` Henning Schild
2020-06-29 13:25 ` Jan Kiszka
2020-07-01 8:29 ` Claudius Heine
2020-10-13 10:19 ` Jan Kiszka
2020-10-13 10:26 ` Harald Seiler
2020-10-13 10:35 ` Jan Kiszka
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