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dkim=pass header.i=@siemens.com header.s=selector2 header.b=sU27XvNW; arc=pass (i=1 spf=pass spfdomain=siemens.com dkim=pass dkdomain=siemens.com dmarc=pass fromdomain=siemens.com); spf=pass (google.com: domain of jan.kiszka@siemens.com designates 2a01:111:f403:c20f::7 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jan.kiszka@siemens.com; dmarc=pass (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=siemens.com X-Original-From: Jan Kiszka Reply-To: Jan Kiszka Precedence: list Mailing-list: list isar-users@googlegroups.com; contact isar-users+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: isar-users@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 914930254986 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_MED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, RCVD_IN_RP_CERTIFIED,RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL,RCVD_IN_RP_SAFE,SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on shymkent.ilbers.de X-TUID: k/y6uBnXSA+H On 16.12.25 13:27, Baurzhan Ismagulov wrote: > On 2025-12-16 12:36, 'Jan Kiszka' via isar-users wrote: >>> We could think about starting with two releases per year, gaining experience >>> (esp. regarding larger code changes) and seeing which effort it requires. >> >> That's the absolute minimum, but will likely not change a lot >> downstream, at least as long as we find too many issues via the >> downstream layers, thus potentially to late for a release. > > Ok, let me understand. > > cip-core wants quarterly Isar releases -- good to know. > What is the cycle? > > Do I understand correctly, if Isar would do quarterly releases, cip-core would > use Isar tags? At least, we would try to align then. There can always be reasons to slightly deviate in concrete case, but so far I was preferring a newer Isar revision with local, upstream-pending hot-fixes over older Isar revisions. That is because I know downstream will do own integration decisions, and the more freedom isar-cip-core can provide by being compatible with more recent Isar versions, the better. Not too infrequently, we are also developing Isar features to cater developments in isar-cip-core, and it is much nicer to consume them via upstream rather than out-of-tree patches in our layer. > Then it would go downstream, Isar issues would be found and fixed (which > suggests extending Isar testsuite). > Is your point that the next Isar release a quarter later would be soon enough > for the downstreams? > > In any case, we could still try 1.1 in 2026-Q3 and then revisit this topic. > 2 release per year would be an improvement, and we can try this if you consider it a reasonable balance between stabilization effort on the one side and community value on the other. Jan -- Siemens AG, Foundational Technologies Linux Expert Center -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "isar-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to isar-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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