From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 6656722054226640896 X-Received: by 2002:adf:fa8c:: with SMTP id h12mr1750655wrr.6.1549891835221; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 05:30:35 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: isar-users@googlegroups.com Received: by 2002:a1c:3581:: with SMTP id c123ls1710096wma.9.gmail; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 05:30:34 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AHgI3Ia3GMvvWMHwXmMrf7A/OZT/dKxLVWKGb1nV5JGyONLDlKmC/uHDRRA8cFtr8AByRzGWX3T2 X-Received: by 2002:a7b:c8d0:: with SMTP id f16mr748294wml.16.1549891834807; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 05:30:34 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1549891834; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=NgneqteMViAnqvg/9/ibcgT4W5QmaEEpFcBUZX2OErrKUz25gNEVIAE+OD3Ssv/GkQ QEM4YuGm32O5juL5PTH/K1REx1uYRJSDRaXKrr6PL36+Wr5t79q/egYzPODcfAk99Skj ueLtPI4y2hv2fLPm/VwMJemVDR/DNsxlmuzYf7q0ANK8tgvRtGc+8lzNjywsC3eULxdu T7F2eU6h4aarsscAfMhH/1rSIAOjv9FVpMcYA5jU7ek5wZZCVLaX9u1bfucGQ0CD/Qi7 McMGJshVJ/d/ILLrIMYjwygU8UYYgzQ1nqF22LhE80AVjpjvv8FpH9DL9cHeKdsB8ItY IyfA== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-language:in-reply-to:mime-version :user-agent:date:message-id:from:references:to:subject; bh=HXxJPn97PfzyLic6LIJr+O1Xe8DZr+/6A5mKtld6rsE=; b=IWq7FrnK6Pr/Y//E01fKhn8tDhOSZeTlIVq4Hm111SbEbY8vEQG1ovDh/5xjjW4j1m ojBvOmpy6hNzCHOHN5IxY5TthvFf6NUaUnsN55HMoodn3NSS5/PCem5cnjF1n4wp7rVj CtUxlQVqOclDhbILTZOq1MzluJbwxxu23lk8bXFvHmCVi+NPG8IHENnfzi9VGrmbCiQ1 vzGDeuv+s4OF3mWlorGzpiGsFtLXUbbzdQ3yR6qFUesapbn/jaX3Qlwyyw9adYXR+ThU Ymh0zhUfqk9o+FRi1OQETK+ybBuxKWAj2fTFgm57QFNhwHdfnCZ6EvVgBap2eCCk9Bns R4kA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of claudius.heine.ext@siemens.com designates 192.35.17.14 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=claudius.heine.ext@siemens.com Return-Path: Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de. [192.35.17.14]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y200si566980wmd.0.2019.02.11.05.30.34 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 11 Feb 2019 05:30:34 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of claudius.heine.ext@siemens.com designates 192.35.17.14 as permitted sender) client-ip=192.35.17.14; Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of claudius.heine.ext@siemens.com designates 192.35.17.14 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=claudius.heine.ext@siemens.com Received: from mail1.sbs.de (mail1.sbs.de [192.129.41.35]) by david.siemens.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x1BDUYte020895 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 14:30:34 +0100 Received: from [139.25.69.181] (linux-ses-ext02.ppmd.siemens.net [139.25.69.181]) by mail1.sbs.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x1BDUY6B001267; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 14:30:34 +0100 Subject: Re: [Discussion] Deprecating Raspberry Pi To: Jan Kiszka , isar-users References: <86465cf4-3351-e1f4-d502-f2c499e28aa4@siemens.com> From: Claudius Heine Message-ID: <6fe727b6-3437-1242-9235-9b7bae86268e@siemens.com> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 14:30:34 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TUID: UYsL436vpTk1 Hi Jan, On 11/02/2019 13.48, Jan Kiszka wrote: [...] >> If that target is not maintained and used, then I would be in favor of >> removing it from meta-isar. >> >> I just tried to boot the 'isar-image-base.rpi-sdimg' image of the >> current next branch (d88c739323ecdecc) on a Raspberry Pi 1 without >> success. > > The RPi1 is probably also an uninteresting target by now. I agree. > >> >> Currently RPi support with jessie is holding us back to deprecate >> jessie and removing the loop mounts that is required by the old >> versions of mkfs.ext4. So I would be in favor of eigher removing RPi1 >> support or switching to stretch with that, if there are maintainers >> that regularly test if booting works. > > Keeping a non-Debian target would have the value to stress our > abstractions. But that only works if the target is recent enough > (Stretch or newer), frequently built and run as well. Yes. One additional point is if we have the man-power and will to support non-Debian distributions. And If we do, we have to ask if Raspbian is the most interesting one or if for instance Ubuntu for RPi2+3 would be more useful for people. Maybe we could stick to just VM targets in meta-isar, so that booting is easy to test. regards, Claudius -- DENX Software Engineering GmbH, Managing Director: Wolfgang Denk HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-54 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: ch@denx.de