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From: Gylstorff Quirin <quirin.gylstorff@siemens.com>
To: Henning Schild <henning.schild@siemens.com>
Cc: isar-users@googlegroups.com, jan.kiszka@siemens.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/2] Remove Packages during Postprocessing
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 11:23:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <789f5ab1-983a-5005-715f-eb45f6620227@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200225141006.452e4b64@md1za8fc.ad001.siemens.net>



On 2/25/20 2:10 PM, Henning Schild wrote:
> Am Tue, 25 Feb 2020 06:43:55 +0100
> schrieb Gylstorff Quirin <quirin.gylstorff@siemens.com>:
> 
>> On 2/24/20 3:24 PM, Henning Schild wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> my opinion on that is clear. Fix it upstream or live with those
>>> packages. You are either on a distro or fiddle around and tune
>>> everything until you are the only one on the planet testing your
>>> setup. That is Isar vs. yocto ... whoever thinks they _need_ that
>>> should maybe think again. If they need it they can put it into
>>> their own layer or use yocto ;).
>>> I do not think upstream should carry such hacky features unless we
>>> get better reasoning ... Removing "required" packages has the
>>> potential to break your image in funny ways ... that is much more
>>> expensive than a few MB disc space. All affected packages are
>>> likely already cleared and vulnerabilty monitored by someone else,
>>> find that someone and share the cost!
>>>
>>> Henning
>>
>> Hi Henning,
>>
>> I understand your concern and I think you are right. But some people
>> already hack the build process in similar ways and this is a way to
>> give them some support.
> 
> I guess it might be a good idea to tell those hackers to comment here
> or share their reasons with you. My guess is that their need is
> questionable and they did not fully understand the consequences. It
> should probably be discarded as premature optimization and removed from
> the downstream layer, instead of added upstream.
> 
> Even if they carefully looked at the consequences for the packages they
> remove, a generic upstream feature would ease the hack for people less
> careful.

FYI

I got the same patch yesterday again for stripping a rescue system to
fit into a NOR Flash.

Quirin

  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-17 10:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-21 14:53 Q. Gylstorff
2020-02-21 14:53 ` [RFC 1/2] meta/classes: Add remove packages to rootfs postprocessing Q. Gylstorff
2020-02-21 18:28   ` Jan Kiszka
2020-02-24 13:04     ` Gylstorff Quirin
2020-02-21 14:53 ` [RFC 2/2] meta-isar/images: Remove gcc-8-base from rootfs Q. Gylstorff
2020-02-21 18:29   ` Jan Kiszka
2020-02-24 14:24 ` [RFC 0/2] Remove Packages during Postprocessing Henning Schild
2020-02-25  5:43   ` Gylstorff Quirin
2020-02-25 13:10     ` Henning Schild
2020-03-17 10:23       ` Gylstorff Quirin [this message]
2020-03-17 10:28         ` Jan Kiszka
2020-03-17 10:48       ` Gylstorff Quirin
2022-09-22  5:55     ` Balasubramanian Sundaram
2022-09-22  9:26       ` Henning Schild

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