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[178.63.209.131]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 2adb3069b0e04-5990da111e6si38461e87.1.2025.12.16.03.42.28 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 16 Dec 2025 03:42:28 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of anaumann@emlix.com designates 178.63.209.131 as permitted sender) client-ip=178.63.209.131; Received: from mx1.emlix.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.emlix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855CE5F805 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2025 12:42:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailer.emlix.com (p5098be52.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [80.152.190.82]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.emlix.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E2C25F765 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2025 12:42:27 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <78e2e62c-37e0-4b10-9ccf-a82937ee0368@emlix.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2025 12:42:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Decide on official Isar release cycle To: isar-users@googlegroups.com References: <0870be5f-3194-42e4-845a-e47ef07d6baf@siemens.com> Content-Language: en-US From: "'Andreas Naumann' via isar-users" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Original-Sender: anaumann@emlix.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@emlix.com header.s=20250930 header.b=Ao2AglLF; dkim=pass header.i=@emlix.com header.s=20250930 header.b=Ao2AglLF; spf=pass (google.com: domain of anaumann@emlix.com designates 178.63.209.131 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=anaumann@emlix.com; dmarc=pass (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=emlix.com X-Original-From: Andreas Naumann Reply-To: Andreas Naumann Precedence: list Mailing-list: list isar-users@googlegroups.com; contact isar-users+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: isar-users@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 914930254986 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_MED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,RCVD_IN_RP_CERTIFIED, RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL,RCVD_IN_RP_SAFE,SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on shymkent.ilbers.de X-TUID: LqVvfw1Fah3j Am 16.12.25 um 11:53 schrieb Baurzhan Ismagulov: > In general, I'm ok with quarterly releases if this serves anyone. > We've already been working since some time on automating the necessary pa= rts. > > What I'd like to understand is who needs this and for which reasons. When= we > update the process later, we'd re-check against these inputs. On our side, putting arbitrary SHAs into the kas config seems to be not=20 very acceptable, so having more frequent release tags would make it easier to bump the kas=20 config to it and drop patches which have already been accepted. So quarterly releases would be an advantage for the development phase. > > Regarding 1.0, it was about selling the product to potential users which = I can > understand. > > Regarding quarterly releases, I only remember Cedric talking about it but > haven't clearly heard why -- @Cedric, was it that you released your produ= ct > quarterly? And quarterly Isar updates would help you in which way? > > In my experience, many downstreams upgrade seldom (usually once per produ= ct > release, which is roughly two years). I perceived reluctance to upgrade I= sar > because the custom distro aligns with cip-core and cip-core hasn't upgrad= ed [at > the time of discussion]. That said, yearly custom distro upgrades are als= o > skipped till the product release. I must agree that once a product release has happened, the interest in=20 bumping frequently will probably drop. However, when doing a yearly product bump, o= r even only every two years, it would still be nice, to have more freedom=20 when to do so. regards, Andreas > > We could think about starting with two releases per year, gaining experie= nce > (esp. regarding larger code changes) and seeing which effort it requires. > > We could discuss two-year major releases but maybe rather as an upper lim= it -- > if an incompatible feature is merged, it would make sense to make a major > release earlier. > > Yes, we don't have a stable branch and currently I'd like to avoid it if = at all > possible. 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