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From: "'MOESSBAUER, Felix' via isar-users" <isar-users@googlegroups.com>
To: "chombourger@gmail.com" <chombourger@gmail.com>,
	"isar-users@googlegroups.com" <isar-users@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: wic missing squashfs
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 12:00:55 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <798570e4ab92729bbde6b109daff8109d2922e8a.camel@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ad0e20d5-f37f-4fa8-8842-a26e0503a345n@googlegroups.com>

On Wed, 2024-12-18 at 11:12 -0800, Cedric Hombourger wrote:
> 
> 
> Le mercredi 18 décembre 2024 à 11:09:35 UTC+1, MOESSBAUER, Felix a
> écrit :
> > On Tue, 2024-12-17 at 12:50 -0800, Cedric Hombourger wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Le jeudi 5 décembre 2024 à 15:55:35 UTC+1, Uladzimir Bely a
> > > écrit :
> > > > On Thu, 2024-12-05 at 06:47 -0800, Stephen Ecker wrote:
> > > > > I keep getting this error:
> > > > > 
> > > > > | ERROR: A native program mksquashfs required to build the
> > > > > image
> > > > > was
> > > > > not found (see details above).
> > > > > |
> > > > > | Please make sure wic-tools have squashfs-tools-native in
> > > > > its
> > > > > DEPENDS, build it with 'bitbake wic-tools' and try again.
> > > > > |
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have tried adding squashfs-tools-native to
> > > > > WKS_FILE_DEPENDS,
> > > > > but I
> > > > > get the same error.  any thoughts?
> > > > 
> > > > Hello.
> > > > 
> > > > Try using IMAGER_INSTALL:wic += "squashfs-tools"
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I have recently run into this (and did this in my layer)
> > > 
> > > IMO the wic imager should pre-install packages for everything
> > > file-
> > > systems it supports / usable in .wks files. I was going to submit
> > > a
> > > patch along these lines so that I could get rid of this directive
> > > in
> > > my downstream layer. Should I? This would improve usability /
> > > user-
> > > experience if you ask me. 
> > 
> > Hmm... I tend to disagree. Installing these tools takes time and
> > increases the attack surface of the build itself. By that we
> > basically
> > penalize all users just because it makes things a bit easier for
> > some.
> 
> 
> attack surface? isn't the sbuild environment of the imager ephemeral?
> moreover, users are encouraged to build within a (kas-)container,
> this adds another line of defense

Yes, my concern is probably more of a theoretical nature. More packages
always increases the risk, but here it probably can be neglected.

> 
> as for build-times, we can quantify but I believe it is negligible.
> little gains but increased pains (for some at least)?  

If we can come up with a not too long list of packages that are
convenient for imaging, this trade off also might be fine.

> 
> I believe we are reaching out to developers with varying levels of
> knowledge and that's ok because some just want to focus on their
> application development duties and do not care about the platform-
> level stuff, yet they have to use the platform tools (bitbake / isar)
> to get their job done. From that perspective, I would vote for
> lowering the barrier of entry

Agree.

>  
> of course one approach could be to add some pre-processing task where
> we parse the wks file upfront to check file-systems that were
> selected (possibly with some shortcuts to avoid re-implementing a
> full wks parser in isar/meta/imagetypes*) but that sounds like adding
> unnecessary complexity.

If the cost of including the packages is high, we likely need this. If
not, it is just over engineering.

Best regards,
Felix

> 
> anyhow, that's my view of the matter.
> 
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Felix 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > > Cedric
> > > 
> > > > 
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> > > > 
> > > > > .
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Uladzimir.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > 
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-19 12:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2024-12-05 14:47 ` Stephen Ecker
2024-12-05 14:55   ` Uladzimir Bely
2024-12-17 20:50     ` Cedric Hombourger
2024-12-18 10:09       ` 'MOESSBAUER, Felix' via isar-users
2024-12-18 19:12         ` Cedric Hombourger
2024-12-19 12:00           ` 'MOESSBAUER, Felix' via isar-users [this message]
2024-12-19 14:13             ` Roberto A. Foglietta
2024-12-19 14:38             ` 'Jan Kiszka' via isar-users

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