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dmarc=pass (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=siemens.com X-Original-From: "Liu, Yi" Reply-To: "Liu, Yi" Precedence: list Mailing-list: list isar-users@googlegroups.com; contact isar-users+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: isar-users@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 914930254986 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_MED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,RCVD_IN_RP_CERTIFIED, RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL,RCVD_IN_RP_SAFE,SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on shymkent.ilbers.de X-TUID: FfdZb7kTHqRF > -----Original Message----- > From: Kiszka, Jan (FT RPD CED) > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2025 3:40 PM > To: Moessbauer, Felix (FT RPD CED OES-DE) > ; isar-users@googlegroups.com; > ibr@ilbers.de; Kowalsky, Clara (FT RPD CED OES-DE) > ; Liu, Yi (FT RPD CED INW-CN) > > Subject: Re: Remove bootstrap support > > On 06.11.25 17:46, 'Jan Kiszka' via isar-users wrote: > > On 06.11.25 17:01, Moessbauer, Felix (FT RPD CED OES-DE) wrote: > >> On Wed, 2025-11-05 at 14:11 +0100, 'Clara Kowalsky' via isar-users > >> wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I noticed that with kas 5.0 debian-trixie and using own keys in > >>> isar-bootstrap, one runs into the issue that apt-key is deprecated > >>> with trixie. > >>> > >>> With: > >>> +PREFERRED_PROVIDER_bootstrap-host ??= "isar-bootstrap-host" > >>> +PREFERRED_PROVIDER_bootstrap-target ??= "isar-bootstrap-target" > >>> & setting e.g., HOST_DISTRO_BOOTSTRAP_KEYS for the > >>> isar-bootstrap-host target, the do_generate_keyrings task returns an > >>> error: > >>> sudo: apt-key: command not found > >> > >> That's a bug... > >> > >>> > >>> The isar testsuite is not covering isar-bootstrap. > >>> > >>> The question is, is the support of bootstrap even needed nowadays or > >>> can it be removed from isar? > >> > >> I also expected that we can sunset the old bootstrap implementation, > >> but apparently this implementation just got a patch so that it can be > >> used for building openKylinOS via ISAR [1]. Looks like we still have > >> users on it. > >> > >> [1] "bitbake: Move the preferred bootstrap assignment before > >> including local.conf" > >> > > > > Before blocking the removal of this untested legacy code due to some > > not-yet-upstream-proposed extension, I would like to first of all see > > that extension proposed and secondly get explained why openKylinOS > > does not work with mmdebstrap. Or does it bring its own bootstrap? > > > > Ping - specifically to our openKylinOS expect. ;) OpenKylinOS does support build its own rootfs through both debootstrap and mmdebstrap. It just got failed when building via ISAR with mmdebstrap. I am trying to figure out why it happens. Dropping isar-bootstrap might affect building OpenkylinOS in the short term, but eventually it will work with mmdebstrap. Liu Yi > > There are only two options: > A) fix the isar-bootstrap issue Clara found AND re-add isar-bootstrap > to some tests > B) drop isar-bootstrap, maybe only leaving bootstrap-host/target for > now so that downstream can still override where needed > > Leaving things as they are or only doing half of option A) are no alternatives. > > Jan > > -- > Siemens AG, Foundational Technologies > Linux Expert Center -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "isar-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to isar-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/isar-users/AS2PR10MB69274E05ECAB994AB60410BFBFCFA%40AS2PR10MB6927.EURPRD10.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM.