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Foglietta" Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2022 22:29:01 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Dropping Debian Stretch support To: Henning Schild Cc: Anton Mikanovich , isar-users , Baurzhan Ismagulov Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-TUID: WK4Iw/p5mZc1 On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 at 19:03, Henning Schild wrote: > > Am Fri, 9 Dec 2022 20:24:13 +0300 > schrieb Anton Mikanovich : > > > Hi all, > > > > Debian Stretch state was moved to EOL long ago (since July 2020), so > > we are going to end its support inside Isar. > > This will allow us to get rid of many hacks inside Isar core and > > single example packages. > > > > Did anyone against dropping Stretch support? > > The contrary, full support from my side! > Supporting a distribution like Stretch which is End-Of-Life since July 2020 slow down the development of ISAR project in many ways: - prevents to adopt solutions not supported by Stretch - pollute the project with code/configs that cannot be developed further - increase the number of tests for validating the product The correct approach in this case is to fork or branch the project and develop the fork/branch independently. Time to time when necessary some changes could be backported from the ISAR to the fork/branch. Moreover, this approach allows the business and/or management to have a specific view about the effort needed to support that branch/fork. This last aspect is very important for computing correctly the cost/value of supporting a legacy platform. I hope this helps, R-