From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 7178560704749764608 X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:c184:b0:190:cf2b:5ecd with SMTP id d4-20020a170902c18400b00190cf2b5ecdmr1064894pld.77.1671388909210; Sun, 18 Dec 2022 10:41:49 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: isar-users@googlegroups.com Received: by 2002:a63:7442:0:b0:478:d230:627a with SMTP id e2-20020a637442000000b00478d230627als1635951pgn.11.-pod-prod-gmail; Sun, 18 Dec 2022 10:41:48 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf7/yyKj1EANPcGLx6kfBXJaEmaIKZK2vsl4VHfo2sBI7aj3VJAX9C6psgZx8ScET0vti9n6 X-Received: by 2002:a62:1ad2:0:b0:57a:81f1:9096 with SMTP id a201-20020a621ad2000000b0057a81f19096mr21327375pfa.22.1671388908366; Sun, 18 Dec 2022 10:41:48 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1671388908; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=X6yqo2IIq6bx1DT1S8iUU98a80XMpJEbKXpukuP0dAhv+MRqlley3voFGmDo7QZmcj j+rxJ7T4K/uv0eEnmiFo/UovCRRbh57hoAA/6MQnb9kJVU6+FIec4yJ6Mgu4BdUuScsT cNdWJr6zxuVei9+TOZdS4JJ+BQUbgu2tb9rGXIJU/sBsMu1mgdNrWw094ZDOHsRhT3rc 6E66gGjy/E66n7Bvp+JmxKtKUtYQjv7+cM/z2Na0Ufu5VBjdQKV71bn+PTUK9uG3KUOr naKFnOdY+fRhaGm0qEgj6b0nlzLhFi4idTOJMCHojNIDdUFdwdphZZF+3BIU5jmTAd5j nPQQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=content-disposition:mime-version:mail-followup-to:message-id :subject:to:from:date; bh=k09dTgxrNr3IbJ2Q9y7K52MY9Kq2tZfvXmtYVElFul0=; b=KP0N53mh3dVBMZENjpRzr1sN43efqfjeXU0E3iRnV/NsuJNOIAFGa1M2ayrkOd3z1R TbdZc79rSbptzTtwoJInwssLbdKZPLcMOEtsh06+mhrB9stDovIRFFynzb7H7C+acKbF P0zkTdtsLCbD0BZ67sQ/l4qRBmocxugJ5soILNFb7EU6KIZKzeNnFYO0YoJAIGAuuMbI 1cCo9yac1cg2ln4CWmzIVmBJ1FdjZpIhJpGMgKQ6clxTt9UcWHapD5uXE6/3F7f9BiQ8 F88VRpWBf79LEObOHklw+VT+BptW8uYiVh56wUojM2/5Bgt9hRwXzY19kigSUgZlEk5q PdTg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 85.214.156.166 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of ibr@radix50.net) smtp.mailfrom=ibr@radix50.net Return-Path: Received: from shymkent.ilbers.de (shymkent.ilbers.de. [85.214.156.166]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h20-20020aa796d4000000b0056ca3420e5dsi377222pfq.6.2022.12.18.10.41.47 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sun, 18 Dec 2022 10:41:48 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 85.214.156.166 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of ibr@radix50.net) client-ip=85.214.156.166; Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 85.214.156.166 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of ibr@radix50.net) smtp.mailfrom=ibr@radix50.net Received: from ilbers.de (host-80-81-17-52.static.customer.m-online.net [80.81.17.52]) (authenticated bits=0) by shymkent.ilbers.de (8.15.2/8.15.2/Debian-8+deb9u1) with ESMTPSA id 2BIIfd5c025786 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2022 19:41:45 +0100 Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2022 19:41:39 +0100 From: Baurzhan Ismagulov To: isar-users@googlegroups.com Subject: Communicating on the list Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: isar-users@googlegroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on shymkent.ilbers.de X-TUID: jLOzFaDP9aPl Hello together, I see that technical discussions on the list have led to tone escalation. I'd like to ask everyone to keep the following points in mind while communicating on this list: * Keep a healthy signal-to-noise ratio * Carefully read and compose the messages -- this will reduce confusion * Technical solutions often involve trade-offs; satisfying all use cases is not always possible; use case priority is very personal business; decisions involve taste and this is ok so * Keep respectful communication, avoid name calling, sarcasm and otherwise hostile language * Stay on-topic I'd like to see this list welcoming and respectful to advance the Isar project together. With kind regards, Baurzhan