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dkim=pass header.i=@siemens.com header.s=selector2 header.b=a9vtQxt+; arc=pass (i=1 spf=pass spfdomain=siemens.com dkim=pass dkdomain=siemens.com dmarc=pass fromdomain=siemens.com); spf=pass (google.com: domain of quirin.gylstorff@siemens.com designates 2a01:111:f403:c200::3 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=quirin.gylstorff@siemens.com; dmarc=pass (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=siemens.com X-Original-From: Quirin Gylstorff Reply-To: Quirin Gylstorff Precedence: list Mailing-list: list isar-users@googlegroups.com; contact isar-users+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: isar-users@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 914930254986 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_MED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,RCVD_IN_RP_CERTIFIED, RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL,RCVD_IN_RP_SAFE,SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on shymkent.ilbers.de X-TUID: wnjS2jBLCnUp On 4/17/26 5:05 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote: > On 17.04.26 16:39, 'Jan Kiszka' via isar-users wrote: >> On 17.04.26 16:15, Zhihang Wei wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 4/16/26 18:01, Jan Kiszka wrote: >>>> On 16.04.26 17:51, Jan Kiszka wrote: >>>>> On 16.04.26 17:42, Zhihang Wei wrote: >>>>>> Applied to next, thanks. >>>>>> >>>>> I am repeating myself: We broken the deployment API in v1.0. This ser= ies >>>>> is breaking it once more, just differently (and rather unhandy for ma= ny >>>>> downstream users). >>>>> >>>>> Are we truly sure now that this is the FINAL solution, or do we plan = for >>>>> n more API breakages? >>>>> >>>> But let's a assume we keep it like this: >>>> >>>> What is the plan for a v1.0.1 hotfix release? I'm seeing other patches >>>> being merged. Some would qualify to be part as well, another one is >>>> harmless but not a hotfix. So I'm asking before things possibly move o= n >>>> further. At least some users here are waiting to adopt v1.0.x. >>>> >>>> Jan >>>> >>> We have tested the prefixed DTB approach on our downstreams and it >>> works without major issues. >> >> You likely have nothing like the deployment scripts for LAVA >> (isar-cip-core, xenomai-images). It breaks them, and we need extra logic >> because of the mangled names and paths. >> >>> >>> Regarding splitting TMPDIRs: this would break at least one of our >>> downstreams. We have a setup with two multiconfigs =E2=80=94 one for re= scue >>> (with its own rootfs, kernel, etc.) and another regular one which >>> depends on the rescue one and needs to consume its deployed artifacts. >>> Splitting TMPDIRs is not viable in this case. >>> >> >> This has already been identified as problem, yes. OE does not use it >> either, only few downstreams. We are apparently overusing mc: or the >> deployment folder here. >> >>> >>> As for the release plan: we would like to target v1.1 rather than a >>> v1.0.1 hotfix, with the API expected to remain stable for some period. >> >> We must fix this soon or 1.0 will remain a no-go version. It will then >> happen the opposite of what "1.0" was aiming at: to signal maturity. >> >>> I propose that if a final solution can be found quickly, we hold v1.1 >>> until it is merged. Otherwise, v1.1 should be based on the prefixed DTB >>> patch. >>> >>> We do have a new proposal for the "final solution". Let me send it >>> under v6 DTB discussion. >>> >> >> I'm looking into it. >> >> Jan >> >=20 > Just to make it clear (again), this is how OE deploys DTBs to images: >=20 > build/tmp/deploy/images/qemusdc2/devicetree/*.dtb >=20 > Didn't check yet, but there might even unfold the new subdirectory > structure (by vendor, mostly) under that folder. So this renaming here > is not getting us better aligned (to be fair: we were not aligned before)= . From the history of=20 https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/log/meta/classes-recipe/kern= el-devicetree.bbclass=20 the kernel recipe name was added to the devicetree file. it looks like the devicetree folder is created by=20 https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/meta/classes-recipe/dev= icetree.bbclass=20 to avoid a clash with the device tree deployed by the kernel. Quirin >=20 > Jan >=20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= isar-users" group. 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