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[192.35.17.2]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a26si141298lff.2.2019.02.12.04.41.12 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Feb 2019 04:41:12 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of claudius.heine.ext@siemens.com designates 192.35.17.2 as permitted sender) client-ip=192.35.17.2; Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of claudius.heine.ext@siemens.com designates 192.35.17.2 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=claudius.heine.ext@siemens.com Received: from mail1.sbs.de (mail1.sbs.de [192.129.41.35]) by thoth.sbs.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x1CCfAth000539 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 13:41:10 +0100 Received: from [139.25.69.181] (linux-ses-ext02.ppmd.siemens.net [139.25.69.181]) by mail1.sbs.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x1CCfB2O010942 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 13:41:11 +0100 Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] remove RaspberryPi support To: isar-users@googlegroups.com References: <20190212093036.23464-1-claudius.heine.ext@siemens.com> <20190212113919.GI805@yssyq.m.ilbers.de> From: Claudius Heine Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 13:41:11 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190212113919.GI805@yssyq.m.ilbers.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TUID: 2dtOHx0r2AOo Hi Baurzhan, On 12/02/2019 12.39, Baurzhan Ismagulov wrote: > On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 10:30:36AM +0100, claudius.heine.ext@siemens.com wrote: >> RaspberryPi is removed from meta-isar, because >> - there currently no maintainers for it >> - there is no automated boot test for it >> - forces burden on rest of isar to support jessie >> - very old board, most users should have moved on to RPi 2 or 3 >> >> If those points change, support for it can be readded. > > - There is a maintaner (the process has to be improved) Well the issue to update rpi to stretch in gh is open for 1.5 years. > - Testing doesn't have to be automated (automation desired mid- to long-term) > - There is value in supporting old boards as long as it is reasonable > - I think we should strive for evolution and not discrete add-remove jumps > > The burden issue demonstrates one of the fundamental ideas behind Isar. After > some time, people end up building for different suites. Many people who release > stretch today will build for stretch and buster tomorrow. Maybe now is the time > to make pluggable mechanisms for different suites. Without satisfying that > need, Isar won't be serving people in the long run, IMHO. No. IMO you should use an old version of isar for old stuff. Trying to be backwards compatible as long as possible it not something isar<1.0 should try to do anyway, but I would argue that isar>1.0 should also restrict. Isar breaks the layer interface currently to often that it does not make any sense to be coy about breaking board support if necessary. > Regarding rpi1, I'd be reluctant to remove without understanding what went > wrong first. Moving to stretch shouldn't be a problem, but the issue of > elegantly supporting different suites remains nonetheless. Great if updating rpi to stretch is not a problem, then this patch is not needed! Well my intention for the removal patch was, that it will take about a week before it is merged and if raspberry pi is updated to stretch before that, then this patch is no longer needed. I submitted this revision of the patch after I saw that the issue to upgrade rpi to stretch is now 1.5 years old. And I really don't want to wait such periods until we can drop jessie support. I hope you understand. regards, Claudius -- DENX Software Engineering GmbH, Managing Director: Wolfgang Denk HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-54 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: ch@denx.de