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[85.214.156.166]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5b1f17b1804b1-475caeb4a60si178905e9.2.2025.10.23.03.42.15 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 23 Oct 2025 03:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ibr@radix50.net designates 85.214.156.166 as permitted sender) client-ip=85.214.156.166; Received: from abai.de ([88.130.203.42]) (authenticated bits=0) by shymkent.ilbers.de (8.15.2/8.15.2/Debian-8+deb9u1) with ESMTPSA id 59NAgDo2026969 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 23 Oct 2025 12:42:14 +0200 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2025 12:42:13 +0200 From: Baurzhan Ismagulov To: isar-users Cc: Jan Kiszka , Felix Moessbauer Subject: Re: Reminder: hotfix fast path needed Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: isar-users , Jan Kiszka , Felix Moessbauer References: <3c21e4e1-ad2b-4510-8cf2-ba616fc166dc@siemens.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3c21e4e1-ad2b-4510-8cf2-ba616fc166dc@siemens.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_MED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_EF,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2, RCVD_IN_RP_CERTIFIED,RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL,RCVD_IN_RP_SAFE,SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on shymkent.ilbers.de X-Original-Sender: ibr@radix50.net X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ibr@radix50.net designates 85.214.156.166 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ibr@radix50.net Precedence: list Mailing-list: list isar-users@googlegroups.com; contact isar-users+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: isar-users@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 914930254986 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-TUID: HurnUpg8aGr6 Hello Jan, On 2025-10-23 07:52, Jan Kiszka wrote: > Patches that carry "Fixes:" tag and address build breakages should be on > a fast path for QA and merge. I'm pointing colleagues to [1] and [2] > almost on a daily basis, but those are just two recent examples. > > [1] https://patchwork.isar-build.org/project/isar/patch/20251017085344.2647058-1-felix.moessbauer@siemens.com/ > [2] https://patchwork.isar-build.org/project/isar/patch/0f16240d-aca7-4f03-b0f7-1567c5b4c26f@siemens.com/ I acknowledge the desire to have fast path for "Fixes:" and build breakages. We've merged #2. The full results for #1 will be available tomorrow. There is a number of failures due to e.g. external networking issues; we'll be sharing patches for those. I think introducing fast path for certain changes is the easiest part of the equation. In #2, you also express regret that there is no testcase for the feature in question. In general, we should think about adding testcases on use case introduction and bug fixes -- here I agree with Cedric. I think this has larger contribution to the quality, benefits all downstreams and saves the overall fixing effort, as every applied change could break the feature. Once a fix goes in, a testcase never follows. Currently, we are developing testcases for certain changes from the list; longer-term, this will not work. The Linux "tested by many" model helps only to some extent. We also see e.g. conflicting changes being applied back and forth, even in Linux. Having the use case view backed by tests at the Isar level would avoid this. To summarize, we'll evaluate this proposal and also invite for more collaboration on testcases. With kind regards, Baurzhan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "isar-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to isar-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/isar-users/aPoGhetfr5ORsjQJ%40abai.de.