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dkim=pass header.i=@siemens.com header.s=selector2 header.b=RFH72n3A; arc=pass (i=1 spf=pass spfdomain=siemens.com dkim=pass dkdomain=siemens.com dmarc=pass fromdomain=siemens.com); spf=pass (google.com: domain of jan.kiszka@siemens.com designates 2a01:111:f403:c201::1 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jan.kiszka@siemens.com; dmarc=pass (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=siemens.com X-Original-From: Jan Kiszka Reply-To: Jan Kiszka Precedence: list Mailing-list: list isar-users@googlegroups.com; contact isar-users+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: isar-users@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 914930254986 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_MED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,RCVD_IN_RP_CERTIFIED, RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL,RCVD_IN_RP_SAFE,SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on shymkent.ilbers.de X-TUID: VvR9HO1f4x5V On 29.04.26 13:40, Moessbauer, Felix (FT RPD CED OES-DE) wrote: > On Wed, 2026-04-29 at 13:26 +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote: >> On 29.04.26 13:10, Moessbauer, Felix (FT RPD CED OES-DE) wrote: >>> On Wed, 2026-04-29 at 12:55 +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote: >>>> On 29.04.26 12:53, Jan Kiszka wrote: >>>>> On 29.04.26 12:47, 'Felix Moessbauer' via isar-users wrote: >>>>>> Architecture all packages often cannot be built in cross mode, as the >>>>>> dependencies cannot be resolved in the host architecture. This >>>>>> especially applies to all packages which split their build dependencies >>>>>> into Build-Depends-Arch and Build-Depends-Indep. We already have logic >>>>>> in isar to built DPKG_ARCH=all packages non-cross, but this does not >>>>>> work for packages that generate both arch specific and arch all binary >>>>>> packages. >>>>>> >>>>>> While sbuild automatically disables builds of arch-all packages on >>>>>> cross, we previously explicitly overrode this setting. We now change >>>>>> this by explicitly setting --no-arch-all flag on cross and --arch-all on >>>>>> non-cross. >>>>>> >>>>>> Signed-off-by: Felix Moessbauer >>>>>> --- >>>>>> RECIPE-API-CHANGELOG.md | 15 +++++++++++++++ >>>>>> meta/classes-recipe/dpkg.bbclass | 3 ++- >>>>>> 2 files changed, 17 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) >>>>>> >>>>>> diff --git a/RECIPE-API-CHANGELOG.md b/RECIPE-API-CHANGELOG.md >>>>>> index 856da5de..c83c1599 100644 >>>>>> --- a/RECIPE-API-CHANGELOG.md >>>>>> +++ b/RECIPE-API-CHANGELOG.md >>>>>> @@ -1001,3 +1001,18 @@ do_copy_boot_files: The recipe isar-image-base is trying to install >>>>>> files into a shared area when those files already exists. It happens >>>>>> when some files have the same names (e.g., dtb files) for different >>>>>> distros. >>>>>> + >>>>>> +### No building of arch=all packages when cross building >>>>>> + >>>>>> +Architecture all packages often cannot be built in cross mode, as the >>>>>> +dependencies cannot be resolved in the foreign architecture. This especially >>>>>> +applies to all packages which split their build dependencies into >>>>>> +`Build-Depends-Arch` and `Build-Depends-Indep`. We already have logic >>>>>> +in isar to built `DPKG_ARCH = "all"` packages non-cross, but this does not >>>>>> +work for packages that generate both arch specific and arch all binary packages. >>>>>> + >>>>>> +We now explicitly disable building arch=all binary packages on cross (this >>>>>> +technically only affects packages that generate arch specific and arch=all >>>>>> +binary packages). To build the arch=all binary packages of such source packages, >>>>>> +add an explicit dependency to `${BPN}-native`. Source packages that only >>>>> >>>>> That will be fun to find, though likely a rare one. Can't we detect such >>>>> cases in Isar and add a bitbake dependency from $BPN to -native? >>> >>> We could try to parse the ${S}/debian/control file and detect this, but >>> I guess that doesn't work, as we would have to add the dependency >>> before running bitbake tasks (a common case is that the debian part is >>> fetched, hence the task need to run and then it's too late). >>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> In fact, -native is practically overshooting. We would need a recipe >>>> target that only build the all package. >>> >>> I thought about this as well. We would need a -all variant that is >>> basically identical to -native but adds the --no-arch-any sbuild flag. >>> However, this only helps for first-stage dependencies, as the >>> transitive dependencies still need to be build in -native. Further, we >>> need to ensure that either -all or -native is built, but not both. This >>> would need a model similar to the fetch_common_source task. That's a >>> lot of complexity for a minimal build-time improvement. By that, I >>> rather would like to avoid this optimization. If we really need it, we >>> still can add it in the future. >> >> The key question is how to ensure that people will find this highly >> non-intuitive recipe dependency. We need to explain this even harder >> than the difference between IMAGE_INSTALL and IMAGE_PREINSTALL. >> >> BTW, it also affects how recipe writers have to translate their binary >> output packages into PROVIDES statements. If you do that incorrectly, >> unconditionally, the mess will only get bigger. > > That's an interesting finding. If you model the PROVIDES correctly, you > don't have to add the explicit RDEPENDS to the -native variant. This is > what we should document instead of the -native dependency. > Better test it - I bet there will be further devils in the detail. > Will do so in a v2, once I have more feedback. > I'm afraid we are not stable with this approach yet. Jan -- Siemens AG, Foundational Technologies Linux Expert Center -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "isar-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to isar-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/isar-users/b4f295d9-b4c5-4e04-962c-d25545db6070%40siemens.com.