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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Claudius Heine <claudius.heine.ext@siemens.com>,
	"Maxim Yu. Osipov" <mosipov@ilbers.de>,
	isar-users@googlegroups.com
Cc: Claudius Heine <ch@denx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/9] isar-bootstrap-host: disable DISTRO_BOOTSTRAP_KEYS usage
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 13:35:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bd9c184b-a804-54c6-ad82-cf68043c8838@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a6389107-2c9d-764b-e86d-c7702a4d041d@siemens.com>

On 22.05.19 09:31, Claudius Heine wrote:
> Hi Jan,
> 
> On 22/05/2019 09.02, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> On 22.05.19 08:55, Maxim Yu. Osipov wrote:
>>> On 5/22/19 8:37 AM, Claudius Heine wrote:
>>>> Hi Jan,
>>>>
>>>> On 21/05/2019 18.56, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>>> On 15.05.19 12:11, [ext] claudius.heine.ext@siemens.com wrote:
>>>>>> From: Claudius Heine <ch@denx.de>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> isar-bootstrap-host only supports bootstrapping Debian root file
>>>>>> systems. Therefore deactivate any DISTRO_BOOTSTRAP_KEYS from other
>>>>>> distributions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually not totally true, as I just realized: What about bootstrapping the 
>>>>> buildchroot from a custom debian repo that was differently signed (e.g. 
>>>>> because it is a condensed version of upstream)? Seems we do need 
>>>>> HOST_DISTRO_BOOTSTRAP_KEYS, right?
>>>>
>>>> You are right, I haven't considered that case. Well, the next task on the 
>>>> todo list should probably be to refactor and streamline the isar-bootstrap, 
>>>> and especially the host bootstrap process and fix those kind of issues while 
>>>> doing that.
>>>>
>>>> There are a lot of possible customization options gained if the current 
>>>> giant bootstrap function would be split up, similar to how the rootfs system 
>>>> works in the pre-processing patchset.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe it makes sense to also start renaming "host" and "target" to be 
>>>> compatible with the gcc nomenclature [1] in that patchset. I am a bit 
>>>> reluctant to do so, because of the breakage involved. But the further we 
>>>> wait, to more stuff will break downstream.
>>>>
>>>> The plan would be to rename all occurrences of "host" to "build" and 
>>>> "target" to "host". That would lead to the following recipe changes:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "buildchroot-host" -> "buildchroot-build"
>>>> "buildchroot-target" -> "buildchroot-host"
>>>> "isar-bootstrap-host" -> "isar-bootstrap-build"
>>>> "isar-bootstrap-target" -> "isar-bootstrap-host"
>>>
>>>
>>>> I am on the fence of that change. Correctness vs. no-breakage
>>>>
>>>> Any comments about that?
>>>
>>> I would prefer to avoid such a renaming taking into account needed efforts 
>>> and possible confusion for current Isar users.
>>>
>>
>> Is that build/host scheme then also in line with Debian naming? Then there 
>> will be eventually no way around it anyway. But we really need to do this 
>> thoroughly, specifically /wrt to user-visible interfaces, so that it will be 
>> one cut only.
> 
>  From dpkg-buildpackage(1):
> 
> [...]
>         -a, --host-arch architecture
>                Specify  the  Debian  architecture  we  build  for (long option 
> since dpkg
>                1.17.17).  The architecture of the  machine  we  build on  is  
> determined
>                automatically, and is also the default for the host machine.
> [...]
>         --target-arch architecture
>                Specify  the  Debian architecture the binaries built will build 
> for (since
>                dpkg 1.17.17).  The default value is the host machine.
> [...]
> 

Then the current naming scheme is already accurate for Debian.

Jan

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-22 11:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-15 10:11 [PATCH v6 0/9] Cleanup rootfs creation claudius.heine.ext
2019-05-15 10:11 ` [PATCH v6 1/9] isar-bootstrap-host: disable DISTRO_BOOTSTRAP_KEYS usage claudius.heine.ext
2019-05-21 16:56   ` Jan Kiszka
2019-05-22  6:37     ` Claudius Heine
2019-05-22  6:55       ` Maxim Yu. Osipov
2019-05-22  7:02         ` Jan Kiszka
2019-05-22  7:31           ` Claudius Heine
2019-05-22 11:35             ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2019-05-22 11:39               ` Claudius Heine
2019-05-22 12:15                 ` Jan Kiszka
2019-05-22 12:50                   ` Jan Kiszka
2019-05-22 13:37                     ` Claudius Heine
2019-05-22 19:10                       ` Baurzhan Ismagulov
2019-05-23  9:22                         ` Claudius Heine
2019-05-15 10:11 ` [PATCH v6 2/9] isar-bootstrap-helper: move 'HOST_ARCH' and 'HOST_DISTRO' to base.bbclass claudius.heine.ext
2019-05-15 10:11 ` [PATCH v6 3/9] move 'HOST_DISTRO_APT_SOURCES' from bootstrap-helper to isar-bootstrap claudius.heine.ext
2019-05-15 10:11 ` [PATCH v6 4/9] buildchroot.bbclass: only cross build if HOST_ARCH != DISTRO_ARCH claudius.heine.ext
2019-05-15 10:11 ` [PATCH v6 5/9] isar-bootstrap/buildchroot/sdkchroot: refactor PF and WORKDIR claudius.heine.ext
2019-05-15 10:11 ` [PATCH v6 6/9] bitbake.conf: remove unneeded and differently used variables claudius.heine.ext
2019-05-15 10:11 ` [PATCH v6 7/9] image.bbclass: make IMAGE_ROOTFS overwritable claudius.heine.ext
2019-05-15 10:11 ` [PATCH v6 8/9] bitbake.conf: set default QEMU_ARCH variables claudius.heine.ext
2019-05-15 10:11 ` [PATCH v6 9/9] buildchroot/configscript: make creation of builder uid/gid idempotent claudius.heine.ext
2019-05-15 16:01 ` [PATCH v6 0/9] Cleanup rootfs creation Maxim Yu. Osipov

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