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From: Claudius Heine <claudius.heine.ext@siemens.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	"[ext] Henning Schild" <henning.schild@siemens.com>,
	isar-users@googlegroups.com
Cc: Alexander Smirnov <alex.bluesman.smirnov@gmail.com>,
	Christian Storm <christian.storm@siemens.com>,
	Claudius Heine <ch@denx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/6] meta/dpkg: add dpkg-custom class
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 11:10:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d3d59455-77c7-3df9-c94d-1e3e0f2a8f40@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4ea25dde-acf8-f8e7-1153-9c33cabef4e3@siemens.com>

Hi Jan,

On 08/31/2017 10:42 AM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 2017-08-31 10:38, [ext] Claudius Heine wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> On 08/30/2017 09:03 PM, [ext] Henning Schild wrote:
>>> Issues:
>>> 1. full customizations of the images is hard to impossible to
>>> realize in a layer without touching Isar
>>> 1.1. there is no easy way to just copy a file into the image
>>> 1.2. configuration (passwords, groups, cfg-files changes) can not be
>>> done in a layer, there is no way too hook into multistrap or the
>>> configure-script
>>>
>>> Change:
>>> Introduce a class that lets users create custom debian packages on the
>>> fly, without having to create a /debian directory and actually building.
>>> That allows you to pull in debian-dependencies, you could have a
>>> package that has no content and is just there to install what you need
>>> for a feature of your product.
>>> Using package hooks (preinst, postinst ..) you can configure pretty much
>>> all you want when installing the package.
>>> The package can contain actual payload as well, basically any files that
>>> come from "somewhere else". Say binary data like wallpapers, sound files
>>> or application binaries.
>>>
>>> Impact:
>>> This patch addresses the metioned issue in a way that uses debian
>>> mechanism. All the customizations will enjoy features like
>>> - collission protection (multiple packages providing the same file)
>>> - config file protection
>>> - versioning and the ability to deploy your changes in an updateable way
>>>
>>> This patch introduces a major new feature to Isar.
>>>
>>> This class introduces a new class for building debian packages on the
>>> fly. They can basically contain anything from random sources, where
>>> building happens outside of Isar. It also allows to create meta-packages
>>> that contain nothing but pull in dependencies, once all our packets come
>>> in via multistrap that will come in handy.
>>> For rootfs configuration you would use post- and pre- scripts just like
>>> regular debian packages do.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Henning Schild <henning.schild@siemens.com>
>>> ---
>>>    meta/classes/dpkg-custom.bbclass | 57
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>    1 file changed, 57 insertions(+)
>>>    create mode 100644 meta/classes/dpkg-custom.bbclass
>>
>> Also not a big fan of this name. 'custom' is a bit too unspecific for
>> what it does. I get that your idea that those packages are *custom*
>> made, but at the same time, so are all the packages that are directly
>> created within isar.
>>
>> I liked the old 'dpkg-bin' name more, but maybe even this is a bit to
>> unspecific. How about 'dpkg-plain'? That describes better that those
>> packages are very simple, created impromptu without much to it, IMO.
> 
> How about dpkg-wrap, because this wraps existing stuff as-is into debian
> package?

I would still be slightly in favor of 'dpkg-plain', because as a recipe 
writer you inherit from dpkg-plain, because you want to create a very 
simple debian package. With 'dpkg-wrap' I would think about a wrapper 
around dpkg packages of around the dpkg tool.

But here we are in the subjective area.

So generally its about describing what it does 'dpkg-wrap' comparing 
with describing what it provides 'dpkg-plain'.

I would still prefer the latter. But would be ok with both.

Cheers,
Claudius

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-31  9:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-30 19:03 [PATCH 0/6] v3 of getting the custom debian package in Henning Schild
2017-08-30 19:03 ` [PATCH 1/6] meta/dpkg: Make 'do_unpack' more generic, prepare for pulling out Henning Schild
2017-09-04 15:11   ` Alexander Smirnov
2017-09-04 16:47     ` Jan Kiszka
2017-09-05  7:05     ` Claudius Heine
2017-09-05  7:25       ` Alexander Smirnov
2017-09-05  7:37         ` Alexander Smirnov
2017-09-05  7:56           ` Claudius Heine
2017-09-08  8:30           ` Henning Schild
2017-09-08  8:44             ` Claudius Heine
2017-09-08  9:03               ` Henning Schild
2017-08-30 19:03 ` [PATCH 2/6] meta: Move 'do_fetch' and 'do_unpack' to base-class Henning Schild
2017-09-04 15:14   ` Alexander Smirnov
2017-09-04 16:03     ` Jan Kiszka
2017-09-04 16:10       ` Alexander Smirnov
2017-09-04 16:11         ` Jan Kiszka
2017-09-04 16:39           ` Alexander Smirnov
2017-09-04 16:45             ` Jan Kiszka
2017-08-30 19:03 ` [PATCH 3/6] meta/dpkg: rename to dpkg-debian and add comment Henning Schild
2017-08-31  8:23   ` Claudius Heine
2017-09-04 15:17   ` Alexander Smirnov
2017-09-04 16:05     ` Jan Kiszka
2017-08-30 19:03 ` [PATCH 4/6] meta/dpkg-debian: Make 'do_install' more generic, prepare for pulling out Henning Schild
2017-08-30 19:09   ` Henning Schild
2017-09-08  8:35     ` Henning Schild
2017-08-30 19:03 ` [PATCH 5/6] meta/dpkg: add dpkg-custom class Henning Schild
2017-08-31  8:38   ` Claudius Heine
2017-08-31  8:42     ` Jan Kiszka
2017-08-31  9:10       ` Claudius Heine [this message]
2017-08-31  9:32       ` Henning Schild
2017-08-31 12:14         ` Claudius Heine
2017-08-31 13:39           ` Henning Schild
2017-09-11  8:39       ` Alexander Smirnov
2017-08-31  8:53     ` Claudius Heine
2017-08-31 10:21       ` Henning Schild
2017-09-04 15:36   ` Alexander Smirnov
2017-09-04 16:08     ` Jan Kiszka
2017-09-04 16:30       ` Alexander Smirnov
2017-09-04 16:53         ` Jan Kiszka
2017-09-08  8:20         ` Henning Schild
2017-09-08  8:15     ` Henning Schild
2017-09-08  8:31       ` Alexander Smirnov
2017-09-08  8:42         ` Henning Schild
2017-09-08  8:50           ` Alexander Smirnov
2017-09-11  8:13     ` Claudius Heine
2017-09-11  8:19       ` Henning Schild
2017-09-11  9:12         ` Claudius Heine
2017-09-11  8:42       ` Claudius Heine
2017-08-30 19:03 ` [PATCH 6/6] recipes-app/example-custom: add example on how to use dpkg-custom Henning Schild
2017-09-04 15:40   ` Alexander Smirnov
2017-09-06  7:36     ` Henning Schild

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