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spf=pass (google.com: domain of felix.moessbauer@siemens.com designates 2a01:111:f403:2612::61d as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=felix.moessbauer@siemens.com; dmarc=pass (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=siemens.com X-Original-From: "MOESSBAUER, Felix" Reply-To: "MOESSBAUER, Felix" Precedence: list Mailing-list: list isar-users@googlegroups.com; contact isar-users+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: isar-users@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 914930254986 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_MED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, RCVD_IN_RP_CERTIFIED,RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL,RCVD_IN_RP_SAFE,SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on shymkent.ilbers.de X-TUID: Xg3aKfOlIS+R On Mon, 2024-11-11 at 20:48 +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote: > On 11.11.24 18:58, Moessbauer, Felix (FT RPD CED OES-DE) wrote: > > On Mon, 2024-11-11 at 16:56 +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote: > > > On 11.11.24 16:17, Anton Mikanovich wrote: > > > > 11/11/2024 16:52, Jan Kiszka wrote: > > > > > We could only lock known sessions against each other. But > > > > > that > > > > > would > > > > > already help everything that runs in a CI runner, maybe in a > > > > > kas- > > > > > isar > > > > > container. Not perfect but would probably address 99% of > > > > > cases > > > > > today. > > > > >=20 > > > > > Jan > > > > >=20 > > > > This will result in serialization of do_dpkg_build tasks and > > > > will > > > > cause > > > > Isar > > > > slowdown. > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > OK, that was the information I was looking for - and was afraid > > > of. > > >=20 > > > But even if your PR would be merged tomorrow (which is completely > > > unpredictable right now), it would still require backports to > > > bookworm > > > at least, and those would need to be deployed locally or > > > integrated > > > into > > > future versions of kas. All that is not going to happen soon - if > > > at > > > all. It may even be that only trixes schroot will have all what > > > we > > > need. > >=20 > > We have similar problems with apt and proper rate-limit handling. > > But > > that's OT. > >=20 > > At a second thought I'm wondering if we should drop schroot at all > > and > > use mmdebstrap + unshare. By that, the sbuild also does no longer > > require root access. I'm running sbuild with unshare backend for > > some > > time locally now (not with ISAR, though). > >=20 >=20 > https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2024/06/msg00257.html=C2=A0- there > is > likely no simple answer for the backend yet. For me that reads like unschroot is just a unshare backend on steroids. But as we can't use that prior to trixie, it probably does not help here. Still I see no reason that blocks us from using the unshare backend. >=20 > BTW, would unshare work at all inside our build containers? Yes, that works as namespaces can be stacked - that's how podman user (non root) containers work. 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