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* Overview over my outstanding patches
@ 2018-04-26 10:52 Claudius Heine
  2018-04-26 13:57 ` Claudius Heine
  2018-05-14 13:47 ` Alexander Smirnov
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Claudius Heine @ 2018-04-26 10:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: isar-users

Hi,

https://github.com/cmhe/isar/tree/ch/posted

contains all the patches I posted to the mailinglist.

Thanks,
Claudius


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* Re: Overview over my outstanding patches
  2018-04-26 10:52 Overview over my outstanding patches Claudius Heine
@ 2018-04-26 13:57 ` Claudius Heine
  2018-05-14 13:47 ` Alexander Smirnov
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Claudius Heine @ 2018-04-26 13:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: isar-users

On 2018-04-26 12:52, [ext] Claudius Heine wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> https://github.com/cmhe/isar/tree/ch/posted
> 
> contains all the patches I posted to the mailinglist.

I also just rebased those to the current next and added my just 
submitted patch about those Perl locale warnings to it.

Claudius

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* Re: Overview over my outstanding patches
  2018-04-26 10:52 Overview over my outstanding patches Claudius Heine
  2018-04-26 13:57 ` Claudius Heine
@ 2018-05-14 13:47 ` Alexander Smirnov
  2018-05-24  9:21   ` Claudius Heine
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Alexander Smirnov @ 2018-05-14 13:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Claudius Heine, isar-users

Hi,

On 04/26/2018 01:52 PM, Claudius Heine wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> https://github.com/cmhe/isar/tree/ch/posted
> 
> contains all the patches I posted to the mailinglist.

The following were applied to next:
===================================
  - isar-bootstrap: Change task dependencies to improve parallelization
  - Renamed 'Multistrap' references to 'Isar'
  - meta-isar/isar-image-base: Remove uncesessary cmd lines from cfg scripts
  - isar-bootstrap: Implement DISTRO_APT_PREMIRRORS feature
  - base.bbclass: Implement 'root_cleandirs' feature
  - meta-isar/isar-image-base: Make kernel optional

Thank you!

Remaining:
==========
  - meta-isar/isar-image-base: added removal of qemu-*-static binaries:

Here is the question about case, when user wants to install 
qemu-user-static package to target rootfs.

  - classes/isar-bootstrap-helper: set locale variables
  - buildchroot/build.sh: set locale variables

There one 'locale' error message remains. Now I have time, so will look 
at this issue right now.

Alex

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* Re: Overview over my outstanding patches
  2018-05-14 13:47 ` Alexander Smirnov
@ 2018-05-24  9:21   ` Claudius Heine
  2018-05-24 13:34     ` Claudius Heine
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Claudius Heine @ 2018-05-24  9:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alexander Smirnov, isar-users

Hi Alex,

On 2018-05-14 15:47, Alexander Smirnov wrote:
> Remaining:
> ==========
>   - meta-isar/isar-image-base: added removal of qemu-*-static binaries:
> 
> Here is the question about case, when user wants to install 
> qemu-user-static package to target rootfs.

If the user wants to install qemu-user-static to the image, apt 
overwrites the one already there and then the linux kernel complains 
about infinite symlink since it wants to execute the new foreign 
'qemu-*-static' binary with the foreign 'qemu-*-static' binary on and on.

Installing qemu-user-static is simply forbidden until qemu-debootstrap 
changes the deployment path and binfmt settings to avoid this conflict.

Cheers,
Claudius

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* Re: Overview over my outstanding patches
  2018-05-24  9:21   ` Claudius Heine
@ 2018-05-24 13:34     ` Claudius Heine
  2018-05-24 13:38       ` Jan Kiszka
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Claudius Heine @ 2018-05-24 13:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alexander Smirnov, isar-users

Hi,

On 2018-05-24 11:21, [ext] Claudius Heine wrote:
> Hi Alex,
> 
> On 2018-05-14 15:47, Alexander Smirnov wrote:
>> Remaining:
>> ==========
>>   - meta-isar/isar-image-base: added removal of qemu-*-static binaries:
>>
>> Here is the question about case, when user wants to install 
>> qemu-user-static package to target rootfs.
> 
> If the user wants to install qemu-user-static to the image, apt 
> overwrites the one already there and then the linux kernel complains 
> about infinite symlink since it wants to execute the new foreign 
> 'qemu-*-static' binary with the foreign 'qemu-*-static' binary on and on.
> 
> Installing qemu-user-static is simply forbidden until qemu-debootstrap 
> changes the deployment path and binfmt settings to avoid this conflict.

With Hennings help we further investigated this. The binfmt_misc flag 
'F' would prevent this issue [1]. So installing qemu-user-static could 
be possible if that flag is used.

I will prepare a patch that removes the qemu-*-static binaries only if 
that package is not installed.

Claudius

[1] 
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/admin-guide/binfmt-misc.rst?h=v4.16#n83

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* Re: Overview over my outstanding patches
  2018-05-24 13:34     ` Claudius Heine
@ 2018-05-24 13:38       ` Jan Kiszka
  2018-05-24 14:50         ` Claudius Heine
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Jan Kiszka @ 2018-05-24 13:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: [ext] Claudius Heine, Alexander Smirnov, isar-users

On 2018-05-24 15:34, [ext] Claudius Heine wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 2018-05-24 11:21, [ext] Claudius Heine wrote:
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> On 2018-05-14 15:47, Alexander Smirnov wrote:
>>> Remaining:
>>> ==========
>>>   - meta-isar/isar-image-base: added removal of qemu-*-static binaries:
>>>
>>> Here is the question about case, when user wants to install
>>> qemu-user-static package to target rootfs.
>>
>> If the user wants to install qemu-user-static to the image, apt
>> overwrites the one already there and then the linux kernel complains
>> about infinite symlink since it wants to execute the new foreign
>> 'qemu-*-static' binary with the foreign 'qemu-*-static' binary on and on.
>>
>> Installing qemu-user-static is simply forbidden until qemu-debootstrap
>> changes the deployment path and binfmt settings to avoid this conflict.
> 
> With Hennings help we further investigated this. The binfmt_misc flag
> 'F' would prevent this issue [1]. So installing qemu-user-static could
> be possible if that flag is used.

Do we have that under our control, or would we have to patch the
upstream binfmt debian package to tune that flag?

Jan

> 
> I will prepare a patch that removes the qemu-*-static binaries only if
> that package is not installed.
> 
> Claudius
> 
> [1]
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/admin-guide/binfmt-misc.rst?h=v4.16#n83
> 
> 


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* Re: Overview over my outstanding patches
  2018-05-24 13:38       ` Jan Kiszka
@ 2018-05-24 14:50         ` Claudius Heine
  2018-05-24 14:52           ` Jan Kiszka
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Claudius Heine @ 2018-05-24 14:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jan Kiszka, Alexander Smirnov, isar-users

Hi Jan,

On 2018-05-24 15:38, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 2018-05-24 15:34, [ext] Claudius Heine wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 2018-05-24 11:21, [ext] Claudius Heine wrote:
>>> Hi Alex,
>>>
>>> On 2018-05-14 15:47, Alexander Smirnov wrote:
>>>> Remaining:
>>>> ==========
>>>>    - meta-isar/isar-image-base: added removal of qemu-*-static binaries:
>>>>
>>>> Here is the question about case, when user wants to install
>>>> qemu-user-static package to target rootfs.
>>>
>>> If the user wants to install qemu-user-static to the image, apt
>>> overwrites the one already there and then the linux kernel complains
>>> about infinite symlink since it wants to execute the new foreign
>>> 'qemu-*-static' binary with the foreign 'qemu-*-static' binary on and on.
>>>
>>> Installing qemu-user-static is simply forbidden until qemu-debootstrap
>>> changes the deployment path and binfmt settings to avoid this conflict.
>>
>> With Hennings help we further investigated this. The binfmt_misc flag
>> 'F' would prevent this issue [1]. So installing qemu-user-static could
>> be possible if that flag is used.
> 
> Do we have that under our control, or would we have to patch the
> upstream binfmt debian package to tune that flag?

I have to investigate that. On my sid debian host that flag was set.
I think I can see this in the diff between the /var/lib/binfmts/qemu-arm 
from the kas container and my host:

--- kas-qemu-arm	2018-05-24 16:48:31.998958282 +0200
+++ /var/lib/binfmts/qemu-arm	2018-05-22 15:02:13.580660019 +0200
@@ -7,3 +7,4 @@

  yes

+yes

I suppose this yes is were the 'F' flag is set. Currently I don't know 
how those files are generated. I can take a look into it.

Claudius

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* Re: Overview over my outstanding patches
  2018-05-24 14:50         ` Claudius Heine
@ 2018-05-24 14:52           ` Jan Kiszka
  2018-05-24 15:02             ` Claudius Heine
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Jan Kiszka @ 2018-05-24 14:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Claudius Heine, Alexander Smirnov, isar-users

On 2018-05-24 16:50, Claudius Heine wrote:
> Hi Jan,
> 
> On 2018-05-24 15:38, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> On 2018-05-24 15:34, [ext] Claudius Heine wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 2018-05-24 11:21, [ext] Claudius Heine wrote:
>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>>
>>>> On 2018-05-14 15:47, Alexander Smirnov wrote:
>>>>> Remaining:
>>>>> ==========
>>>>>    - meta-isar/isar-image-base: added removal of qemu-*-static
>>>>> binaries:
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is the question about case, when user wants to install
>>>>> qemu-user-static package to target rootfs.
>>>>
>>>> If the user wants to install qemu-user-static to the image, apt
>>>> overwrites the one already there and then the linux kernel complains
>>>> about infinite symlink since it wants to execute the new foreign
>>>> 'qemu-*-static' binary with the foreign 'qemu-*-static' binary on
>>>> and on.
>>>>
>>>> Installing qemu-user-static is simply forbidden until qemu-debootstrap
>>>> changes the deployment path and binfmt settings to avoid this conflict.
>>>
>>> With Hennings help we further investigated this. The binfmt_misc flag
>>> 'F' would prevent this issue [1]. So installing qemu-user-static could
>>> be possible if that flag is used.
>>
>> Do we have that under our control, or would we have to patch the
>> upstream binfmt debian package to tune that flag?
> 
> I have to investigate that. On my sid debian host that flag was set.
> I think I can see this in the diff between the /var/lib/binfmts/qemu-arm
> from the kas container and my host:
> 
> --- kas-qemu-arm    2018-05-24 16:48:31.998958282 +0200
> +++ /var/lib/binfmts/qemu-arm    2018-05-22 15:02:13.580660019 +0200
> @@ -7,3 +7,4 @@
> 
>  yes
> 
> +yes
> 
> I suppose this yes is were the 'F' flag is set. Currently I don't know
> how those files are generated. I can take a look into it.

There is the binfmt-support package, and its update-binfmts seems to set
that stuff.

Jan

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* Re: Overview over my outstanding patches
  2018-05-24 14:52           ` Jan Kiszka
@ 2018-05-24 15:02             ` Claudius Heine
  2018-05-24 15:10               ` Henning Schild
  2018-05-24 15:20               ` Claudius Heine
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Claudius Heine @ 2018-05-24 15:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jan Kiszka, Alexander Smirnov, isar-users

On 2018-05-24 16:52, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 2018-05-24 16:50, Claudius Heine wrote:
>> Hi Jan,
>>
>> On 2018-05-24 15:38, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>> On 2018-05-24 15:34, [ext] Claudius Heine wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On 2018-05-24 11:21, [ext] Claudius Heine wrote:
>>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2018-05-14 15:47, Alexander Smirnov wrote:
>>>>>> Remaining:
>>>>>> ==========
>>>>>>     - meta-isar/isar-image-base: added removal of qemu-*-static
>>>>>> binaries:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is the question about case, when user wants to install
>>>>>> qemu-user-static package to target rootfs.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the user wants to install qemu-user-static to the image, apt
>>>>> overwrites the one already there and then the linux kernel complains
>>>>> about infinite symlink since it wants to execute the new foreign
>>>>> 'qemu-*-static' binary with the foreign 'qemu-*-static' binary on
>>>>> and on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Installing qemu-user-static is simply forbidden until qemu-debootstrap
>>>>> changes the deployment path and binfmt settings to avoid this conflict.
>>>>
>>>> With Hennings help we further investigated this. The binfmt_misc flag
>>>> 'F' would prevent this issue [1]. So installing qemu-user-static could
>>>> be possible if that flag is used.
>>>
>>> Do we have that under our control, or would we have to patch the
>>> upstream binfmt debian package to tune that flag?
>>
>> I have to investigate that. On my sid debian host that flag was set.
>> I think I can see this in the diff between the /var/lib/binfmts/qemu-arm
>> from the kas container and my host:
>>
>> --- kas-qemu-arm    2018-05-24 16:48:31.998958282 +0200
>> +++ /var/lib/binfmts/qemu-arm    2018-05-22 15:02:13.580660019 +0200
>> @@ -7,3 +7,4 @@
>>
>>   yes
>>
>> +yes
>>
>> I suppose this yes is were the 'F' flag is set. Currently I don't know
>> how those files are generated. I can take a look into it.
> 
> There is the binfmt-support package, and its update-binfmts seems to set
> that stuff.

This I know. But were are those qemu configurations defined? Is there a 
way to overwrite them in order to update those flags? I will have to 
investigate how to do that. Maybe we can patch this into those kas 
containers.

Claudius

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* Re: Overview over my outstanding patches
  2018-05-24 15:02             ` Claudius Heine
@ 2018-05-24 15:10               ` Henning Schild
  2018-05-24 15:20               ` Claudius Heine
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Henning Schild @ 2018-05-24 15:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: [ext] Claudius Heine; +Cc: Jan Kiszka, Alexander Smirnov, isar-users

Am Thu, 24 May 2018 17:02:09 +0200
schrieb "[ext] Claudius Heine" <claudius.heine.ext@siemens.com>:

> On 2018-05-24 16:52, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> > On 2018-05-24 16:50, Claudius Heine wrote:  
> >> Hi Jan,
> >>
> >> On 2018-05-24 15:38, Jan Kiszka wrote:  
> >>> On 2018-05-24 15:34, [ext] Claudius Heine wrote:  
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2018-05-24 11:21, [ext] Claudius Heine wrote:  
> >>>>> Hi Alex,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 2018-05-14 15:47, Alexander Smirnov wrote:  
> >>>>>> Remaining:
> >>>>>> ==========
> >>>>>>     - meta-isar/isar-image-base: added removal of qemu-*-static
> >>>>>> binaries:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Here is the question about case, when user wants to install
> >>>>>> qemu-user-static package to target rootfs.  
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If the user wants to install qemu-user-static to the image, apt
> >>>>> overwrites the one already there and then the linux kernel
> >>>>> complains about infinite symlink since it wants to execute the
> >>>>> new foreign 'qemu-*-static' binary with the foreign
> >>>>> 'qemu-*-static' binary on and on.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Installing qemu-user-static is simply forbidden until
> >>>>> qemu-debootstrap changes the deployment path and binfmt
> >>>>> settings to avoid this conflict.  
> >>>>
> >>>> With Hennings help we further investigated this. The binfmt_misc
> >>>> flag 'F' would prevent this issue [1]. So installing
> >>>> qemu-user-static could be possible if that flag is used.  
> >>>
> >>> Do we have that under our control, or would we have to patch the
> >>> upstream binfmt debian package to tune that flag?  
> >>
> >> I have to investigate that. On my sid debian host that flag was
> >> set. I think I can see this in the diff between
> >> the /var/lib/binfmts/qemu-arm from the kas container and my host:
> >>
> >> --- kas-qemu-arm    2018-05-24 16:48:31.998958282 +0200
> >> +++ /var/lib/binfmts/qemu-arm    2018-05-22 15:02:13.580660019
> >> +0200 @@ -7,3 +7,4 @@
> >>
> >>   yes
> >>
> >> +yes
> >>
> >> I suppose this yes is were the 'F' flag is set. Currently I don't
> >> know how those files are generated. I can take a look into it.  
> > 
> > There is the binfmt-support package, and its update-binfmts seems
> > to set that stuff.  
> 
> This I know. But were are those qemu configurations defined? Is there
> a way to overwrite them in order to update those flags? I will have
> to investigate how to do that. Maybe we can patch this into those kas 
> containers.

I am not sure the benefit is really worth the complexity. If we mess
with binfmt in the containers, one will need to build using this
container. And the host might end up in a state it does not expect.
And all for installing a package that probably nobody wants.

Deleting the qemu is important, for size and clearing reasons.

Henning

> Claudius
> 


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* Re: Overview over my outstanding patches
  2018-05-24 15:02             ` Claudius Heine
  2018-05-24 15:10               ` Henning Schild
@ 2018-05-24 15:20               ` Claudius Heine
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Claudius Heine @ 2018-05-24 15:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jan Kiszka, Alexander Smirnov, isar-users

On 2018-05-24 17:02, [ext] Claudius Heine wrote:
> On 2018-05-24 16:52, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> On 2018-05-24 16:50, Claudius Heine wrote:
>>> Hi Jan,
>>>
>>> On 2018-05-24 15:38, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>> On 2018-05-24 15:34, [ext] Claudius Heine wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2018-05-24 11:21, [ext] Claudius Heine wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2018-05-14 15:47, Alexander Smirnov wrote:
>>>>>>> Remaining:
>>>>>>> ==========
>>>>>>>     - meta-isar/isar-image-base: added removal of qemu-*-static
>>>>>>> binaries:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is the question about case, when user wants to install
>>>>>>> qemu-user-static package to target rootfs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the user wants to install qemu-user-static to the image, apt
>>>>>> overwrites the one already there and then the linux kernel complains
>>>>>> about infinite symlink since it wants to execute the new foreign
>>>>>> 'qemu-*-static' binary with the foreign 'qemu-*-static' binary on
>>>>>> and on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Installing qemu-user-static is simply forbidden until 
>>>>>> qemu-debootstrap
>>>>>> changes the deployment path and binfmt settings to avoid this 
>>>>>> conflict.
>>>>>
>>>>> With Hennings help we further investigated this. The binfmt_misc flag
>>>>> 'F' would prevent this issue [1]. So installing qemu-user-static could
>>>>> be possible if that flag is used.
>>>>
>>>> Do we have that under our control, or would we have to patch the
>>>> upstream binfmt debian package to tune that flag?
>>>
>>> I have to investigate that. On my sid debian host that flag was set.
>>> I think I can see this in the diff between the /var/lib/binfmts/qemu-arm
>>> from the kas container and my host:
>>>
>>> --- kas-qemu-arm    2018-05-24 16:48:31.998958282 +0200
>>> +++ /var/lib/binfmts/qemu-arm    2018-05-22 15:02:13.580660019 +0200
>>> @@ -7,3 +7,4 @@
>>>
>>>   yes
>>>
>>> +yes
>>>
>>> I suppose this yes is were the 'F' flag is set. Currently I don't know
>>> how those files are generated. I can take a look into it.
>>
>> There is the binfmt-support package, and its update-binfmts seems to set
>> that stuff.
> 
> This I know. But were are those qemu configurations defined? Is there a 
> way to overwrite them in order to update those flags? I will have to 
> investigate how to do that. Maybe we can patch this into those kas 
> containers.

Ok I got it. Its done in the postinst of the binfmt-support package. 
There those /var/lib/binfmts/qemu-* files are created.

So if we like to do this in the container as well, we might just change 
those files directly ourselves. They won't be overwritten.

Claudius


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