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dkim=pass header.i=@siemens.com header.s=selector2 header.b="PFF6Y/lT"; arc=pass (i=1 spf=pass spfdomain=siemens.com dkim=pass dkdomain=siemens.com dmarc=pass fromdomain=siemens.com); spf=pass (google.com: domain of jan.kiszka@siemens.com designates 2a01:111:f403:c20f::7 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jan.kiszka@siemens.com; dmarc=pass (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=siemens.com X-Original-From: Jan Kiszka Reply-To: Jan Kiszka Precedence: list Mailing-list: list isar-users@googlegroups.com; contact isar-users+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: isar-users@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 914930254986 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_MED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,RCVD_IN_RP_CERTIFIED, RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL,RCVD_IN_RP_SAFE,SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on shymkent.ilbers.de X-TUID: 5CTkbHGVpJ6+ On 09.04.26 17:35, Zhihang Wei wrote: >=20 > On 4/8/26 15:10, Jan Kiszka wrote: >> On 07.04.26 16:29, Quirin Gylstorff wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> On 4/1/26 12:49 PM, Zhihang Wei wrote: >>>> Image task "do_copy_boot_files" deploys kernel, initrd, and device tre= e >>>> binaries to the deploy directory. >>>> >>>> When different images for the same target (e.g., "-base" and "-debug") >>>> are built in parallel, DTB deployment may fail because DTBs do not >>>> contain image-specific components in their filenames, unlike the kerne= l >>>> and initrd. As a result, artifacts from different builds may be writte= n >>>> to the same location. >>>> >>>> Here we deploy the DTBs and other image artifacts to subdirectories, >>>> with names of distro image encoded to the path. >>>> >>>> Note that this results in separate copies of the same artifacts being >>>> deployed for each image build. >>>> >>> This breaks isar-cip-core with release 1.0 with the unified kernel buil= d >>> as a custom initrd is no longer part of the same directory structure as >>> the rest of the image. As the custom initramfs is a separate package it >>> cannot aquire the PN of the rootfs. See https://github.com/ilbers/isar/ >>> blob/6504321e85b5fdc3bb5a83f042b77cb39cd11a6f/meta/classes-recipe/ >>> imagetypes_wic.bbclass#L215. >>> >>> Also merge_wic_sbom does no longer work with a custom initrd. >>> >> The RECIPE-API-CHANGLOG says: >> >>> Artifacts that do not belong to a full image (e.g. isar-image-base, >>> isar-image-ci) remain unchanged. For example, a customized initramfs >>> built independently is not affected. >> And this is the problem: Customized initramfs logically belonged to full >> images, and so it was possible to address them DEPLOY_DIR_IMAGE. Now >> they are "somewhere" - namely under the OE-standard DEPLOY_DIR_IMAGE, >> but there also with the traditional image file naming, flat. > "remain unchanged" here means the customized initramfs keep the same > filenames and paths as before. >=20 > Customized initramfs are built by their own recipes. While building a > full image may trigger the build of a customized initramfs, they can > also be built separately. In contrast, the default initramfs is not a > standalone recipe but a task within the image build process. So > technically, customized initramfs are independent artifacts. >=20 > If CIP core associates a specific customized initramfs with an image > via DEPLOY_DIR_IMAGE, this assumption is affected by the new layout and > needs to be adapted accordingly. The problem is that Isar upstream lacks a realistic use case for customized initramfs. One would be to embed it into a rootfs, as replacement of the default one. Quirin had the idea of packaging it for that. Another would be feeding it into the UKI generation of bootimg-efi-isar but that has unfortunately not yet been enabled for Isar. >> Quirin tried some isar-cip-core conversion, and this is the new >> deployment reality: >> >> build/tmp/deploy/images/qemu-amd64/ >> =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 cip-core-initramfs-cip-core-trixie-qemu-amd6= 4.cdx.json >> =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 cip-core-initramfs-cip-core-trixie-qemu-amd6= 4-initrd.img >> =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 cip-core-initramfs-cip-core-trixie-qemu-amd6= 4.manifest >> =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 cip-core-initramfs-cip-core-trixie-qemu-amd6= 4.spdx.json >> =E2=94=94=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 cip-core-trixie-cip-core-image >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 bootx64.efi >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 linux.efi >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 OVMF >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=82=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94= =80 OVMF_CODE_4M.fd >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=82=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94= =80 OVMF_CODE_4M.ms.fd >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=82=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94= =80 OVMF_CODE_4M.secboot.fd >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=82=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94= =80 OVMF_CODE_4M.secboot.strictnx.fd >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=82=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94= =80 OVMF_CODE_4M.snakeoil.fd >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=82=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94= =80 OVMF_VARS_4M.fd >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=82=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94= =80 OVMF_VARS_4M.ms.fd >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=82=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=94=E2=94=80=E2=94= =80 OVMF_VARS_4M.snakeoil.fd >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 qemu-amd64.cdx.json >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 qemu-amd64.dpkg_sta= tus >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 qemu-amd64-ebg.swu >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 qemu-amd64.manifest >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 qemu-amd64.spdx.jso= n >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 qemu-amd64.squashfs >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 qemu-amd64.swu >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 qemu-amd64.uuid.env >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 qemu-amd64.wic >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 qemu-amd64.wic.bmap >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 qemu-amd64.wic.cdx.= json >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 qemu-amd64.wic.mani= fest >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 qemu-amd64.wic.spdx= .json >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=94=94=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 vmlinuz >> >> Already visually, this screams for improvements. But I'm afraid there >> are more concrete issues hidden in even more complex layers. >> >> And this is exactly why I strongly recommended to NOT merge these >> changes in a hurry before the release anymore. We already needed 9 >> versions, and we were still not fully confident about the stability of >> the new solution. > If this kind of issue should be detected before merging, a CIP core > test case needs to be added to CI. Unfortunately, this will need a process, not just a pipeline step because breaking changes will need at least temporary patches to that layer= . Jan --=20 Siemens AG, Foundational Technologies Linux Expert Center --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= isar-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to isar-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/isar-users/= f5026115-5c19-4535-8832-5dbc7f5b1a65%40siemens.com.