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Also mmdebstrap support using SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH for images >>> reproducibly >>> out of the box. But the main advantage is an ability to remove sudo for >>> debootstrapping later on. >>> This change brakes Debian Buster support as host distro. >> Where is this last aspect described in the patches? >> >> Jan > > Hello Jan, > It's all about the usage of mmdebstrap itself: buster version of the > package is > too old to have all the features already used in isar-bootstrap recipe. > I meant that our user guide still states that host >= buster, even after your patches. Jan -- Siemens AG, Technology Competence Center Embedded Linux