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From: "'Jan Kiszka' via isar-users" <isar-users@googlegroups.com>
To: Felix Moessbauer <felix.moessbauer@siemens.com>,
	isar-users@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] Fix single-name single-content rule for kernel packages
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2026 19:45:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a60e3e68-1a80-4a23-af1a-01f4aff040c9@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260813164500.3092151-1-felix.moessbauer@siemens.com>

On 13.08.26 18:44, Felix Moessbauer wrote:
> Similar to upstream Debian, our kernel source packages are architecture
> specific. By that, we also have to encode the architecture (or machine)
> in the name of the package. Otherwise existing packages might get
> reused on rebuilds with other targets (or multiarch)
> 
> In isar, this has ever been modeled incorrectly (the kernels .dsc file
> was arch=any despite being arch specific). This is easy to fix, but
> also depending on the kernels was done incorrectly (a KERNEL_NAME =
> mainline is not specific enough, as mainline on arm64 is technically a
> different kernel (source package) than mainline on amd64.
> 

It is more complicated than this:

A source packages becomes architecture or even machine-specific if we
bundle the concretely built config file with it. If KERNEL_DEFCONFIG is
empty (default), a kernel source package is actually buildable for any
architecture, thus remains generic.

Now, if the user of our linux-kernel class decides to add a specific
config to the sources, it is now the the question how generic that
config is: only specific to the currently built architecture or even
specific to the selected machine? It is misleading to say, though, that
a source package which carries a machine-specific config is only
arch-specific. It's machine-specific. But hardly anyone would try to
build such a kernel for incompatible machines or even for a different
architectures.

Theoretically, we could even stick multiple configs into the source
package, e.g. the whole cip-kernel-config repo, and select the one used
for a particular target build based on DISTRO_ARCH. That would resolve
the source package issue for such kernels as well.

But I suspect it would still not help us with the native kbuild packages
if they have dependencies on the specific config. Then they would need
to carry the DISTRO_ARCH (the config selector) in their names. Would be
interesting to understand if that already bits us today with the
KERNEL_DEFCONFIG="" case. Did you check?

Jan

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-08-13 17:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-13 16:44 'Felix Moessbauer' via isar-users
2026-08-13 16:44 ` [PATCH 1/5] testsuite: make test_libc_dev_deploy KERNEL_NAME agnostic 'Felix Moessbauer' via isar-users
2026-08-13 16:44 ` [PATCH 2/5] kernel: bind x86_64_defconfig to amd64 architecture instead of machine 'Felix Moessbauer' via isar-users
2026-08-13 16:44 ` [PATCH 3/5] kernel: make source package architecture specific 'Felix Moessbauer' via isar-users
2026-08-13 16:44 ` [PATCH 4/5] kernel: move common parts of linux-mainline to inc 'Felix Moessbauer' via isar-users
2026-08-13 16:45 ` [PATCH 5/5] kernel: use architecture specific names for kernels 'Felix Moessbauer' via isar-users
2026-08-13 17:47   ` 'Jan Kiszka' via isar-users
2026-08-13 18:46     ` 'MOESSBAUER, Felix' via isar-users
2026-08-13 19:08       ` 'Jan Kiszka' via isar-users
2026-08-14  7:01         ` 'MOESSBAUER, Felix' via isar-users
2026-08-14 10:51           ` 'Jan Kiszka' via isar-users
2026-08-13 17:45 ` 'Jan Kiszka' via isar-users [this message]
2026-08-13 17:50   ` [PATCH 0/5] Fix single-name single-content rule for kernel packages 'Jan Kiszka' via isar-users
2026-08-13 18:06     ` 'Jan Kiszka' via isar-users

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