From: "'Jan Kiszka' via isar-users" <isar-users@googlegroups.com>
To: "Moessbauer,
Felix (FT RPD CED OES-DE)" <felix.moessbauer@siemens.com>,
"isar-users@googlegroups.com" <isar-users@googlegroups.com>
Cc: "Schwarz,
Konrad (FT RPD CED OES-DE)" <konrad.schwarz@siemens.com>,
"Gylstorff,
Quirin (FT RPD CED OES-DE)" <quirin.gylstorff@siemens.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] sbuild: do not build arch all packages on cross
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2026 13:26:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f5d4bcf5-a8e5-4745-9984-87b3360d23c7@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <09592e57e156f73a7237436d45acc469152689ff.camel@siemens.com>
On 29.04.26 13:10, Moessbauer, Felix (FT RPD CED OES-DE) wrote:
> On Wed, 2026-04-29 at 12:55 +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> On 29.04.26 12:53, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>> On 29.04.26 12:47, 'Felix Moessbauer' via isar-users wrote:
>>>> Architecture all packages often cannot be built in cross mode, as the
>>>> dependencies cannot be resolved in the host architecture. This
>>>> especially applies to all packages which split their build dependencies
>>>> into Build-Depends-Arch and Build-Depends-Indep. We already have logic
>>>> in isar to built DPKG_ARCH=all packages non-cross, but this does not
>>>> work for packages that generate both arch specific and arch all binary
>>>> packages.
>>>>
>>>> While sbuild automatically disables builds of arch-all packages on
>>>> cross, we previously explicitly overrode this setting. We now change
>>>> this by explicitly setting --no-arch-all flag on cross and --arch-all on
>>>> non-cross.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Felix Moessbauer <felix.moessbauer@siemens.com>
>>>> ---
>>>> RECIPE-API-CHANGELOG.md | 15 +++++++++++++++
>>>> meta/classes-recipe/dpkg.bbclass | 3 ++-
>>>> 2 files changed, 17 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/RECIPE-API-CHANGELOG.md b/RECIPE-API-CHANGELOG.md
>>>> index 856da5de..c83c1599 100644
>>>> --- a/RECIPE-API-CHANGELOG.md
>>>> +++ b/RECIPE-API-CHANGELOG.md
>>>> @@ -1001,3 +1001,18 @@ do_copy_boot_files: The recipe isar-image-base is trying to install
>>>> files into a shared area when those files already exists. It happens
>>>> when some files have the same names (e.g., dtb files) for different
>>>> distros.
>>>> +
>>>> +### No building of arch=all packages when cross building
>>>> +
>>>> +Architecture all packages often cannot be built in cross mode, as the
>>>> +dependencies cannot be resolved in the foreign architecture. This especially
>>>> +applies to all packages which split their build dependencies into
>>>> +`Build-Depends-Arch` and `Build-Depends-Indep`. We already have logic
>>>> +in isar to built `DPKG_ARCH = "all"` packages non-cross, but this does not
>>>> +work for packages that generate both arch specific and arch all binary packages.
>>>> +
>>>> +We now explicitly disable building arch=all binary packages on cross (this
>>>> +technically only affects packages that generate arch specific and arch=all
>>>> +binary packages). To build the arch=all binary packages of such source packages,
>>>> +add an explicit dependency to `${BPN}-native`. Source packages that only
>>>
>>> That will be fun to find, though likely a rare one. Can't we detect such
>>> cases in Isar and add a bitbake dependency from $BPN to -native?
>
> We could try to parse the ${S}/debian/control file and detect this, but
> I guess that doesn't work, as we would have to add the dependency
> before running bitbake tasks (a common case is that the debian part is
> fetched, hence the task need to run and then it's too late).
>
>>>
>>
>> In fact, -native is practically overshooting. We would need a recipe
>> target that only build the all package.
>
> I thought about this as well. We would need a -all variant that is
> basically identical to -native but adds the --no-arch-any sbuild flag.
> However, this only helps for first-stage dependencies, as the
> transitive dependencies still need to be build in -native. Further, we
> need to ensure that either -all or -native is built, but not both. This
> would need a model similar to the fetch_common_source task. That's a
> lot of complexity for a minimal build-time improvement. By that, I
> rather would like to avoid this optimization. If we really need it, we
> still can add it in the future.
The key question is how to ensure that people will find this highly
non-intuitive recipe dependency. We need to explain this even harder
than the difference between IMAGE_INSTALL and IMAGE_PREINSTALL.
BTW, it also affects how recipe writers have to translate their binary
output packages into PROVIDES statements. If you do that incorrectly,
unconditionally, the mess will only get bigger.
Jan
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-29 11:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-29 10:47 [PATCH 1/2] mark cowsay package as architecture all 'Felix Moessbauer' via isar-users
2026-04-29 10:47 ` [PATCH 2/2] sbuild: do not build arch all packages on cross 'Felix Moessbauer' via isar-users
2026-04-29 10:53 ` 'Jan Kiszka' via isar-users
2026-04-29 10:55 ` 'Jan Kiszka' via isar-users
2026-04-29 11:10 ` 'MOESSBAUER, Felix' via isar-users
2026-04-29 11:26 ` 'Jan Kiszka' via isar-users [this message]
2026-04-29 11:40 ` 'MOESSBAUER, Felix' via isar-users
2026-04-29 12:45 ` 'Jan Kiszka' via isar-users
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