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From: "'Jan Kiszka' via isar-users" <isar-users@googlegroups.com>
To: "MOESSBAUER, Felix" <felix.moessbauer@siemens.com>,
	"amikan@ilbers.de" <amikan@ilbers.de>,
	"isar-users@googlegroups.com" <isar-users@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] Bugfix: add a check for "None" to raise a WicError
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2026 18:30:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <61f682f2-697c-4051-9ab5-57cada6068ea@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ea88ba5bbf907d92dcc4277950241e1c2027726f.camel@siemens.com>

On 15.07.26 18:15, 'MOESSBAUER, Felix' via isar-users wrote:
> On Wed, 2026-07-15 at 12:55 +0300, Anton Mikanovich wrote:
>> 15.07.2026 12:26, 'MOESSBAUER, Felix' via isar-users wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2026-07-15 at 09:04 +0000, Ulrich Teichert wrote:
>>>> Hi Felix,
>>>>
>>>>>> Add a check for "None" to raise a WicError because
>>>>>> get_bitbake_var may return "None" if the variable is not available, which
>>>>>> would result in an exception inside os.path.isdir and not to the WicError
>>>>>> exception as intended.
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> did you also send this patch to OE? Changes in the wic plugins that are
>>>>> not purely isar related have to be accepted by OE first (to avoid that
>>>>> our plugins diverge up to the point of not being able to update them
>>>>> anymore).
>>>> No, I wasn't aware of the fact that the rootfs plugin comes from stock OE - but
>>>> in that case I'll divert my patch in that direction ;-)
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>> BTW, is there a rule or a list what is from stock OE in Isar and what isn't?
>>> Unfortunately not that I'm aware of.
>>> Some parts like bitbake, oe-libs and the sstate.bbclass are taken as-
>>> is. Other parts like the wic plugins are patched versions of upstream.
>>>
>>> I hope this will get better once isar also splits the repo into
>>> upstream bitbake and the isar-core layer (as Yocto already did). But
>>> I'm not sure if and when that will happen.
>>>
>>> Maybe the maintainers can say something about this.
>> Having bitbake as (for example) submodule is a good approach, but it is not
>> really possible until we have patches on top of upstream bitbake, like:
>>
>> da17d920 ("bitbake: Downgrade python requirements")
>>
>> Which is still needed for Debian Buster compatibility.
>> We can't even update bitbake version currently because of old Python 
>> version in
>> Buster, which results in one more patch on top:
>>
>> 34c3cda5 ("bitbake: Remove custom exception backtrace formatting")
>>
>> So we can get rid of having in-tree Bitbake copy only after dropping Debian
>> Buster.
> 
> IMHO we need to rework the imaging to run the bitbake parts only
> outside of the chroot. But this requires some non-trivial
> refactoring...
> 

Indeed.

As long as buster is in ELTS and Isar has no stable version maintainer
for continue building it, users are kind of forced to update Isar for
receiving bug fixes while then losing support of their target distro
release.

And what is buster today may be trixie the other year.

Jan

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-15 16:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-15  6:41 'Ulrich Teichert' via isar-users
2026-07-15  8:11 ` 'MOESSBAUER, Felix' via isar-users
2026-07-15  9:04   ` 'Ulrich Teichert' via isar-users
2026-07-15  9:26     ` 'MOESSBAUER, Felix' via isar-users
2026-07-15  9:55       ` Anton Mikanovich
2026-07-15 16:15         ` 'MOESSBAUER, Felix' via isar-users
2026-07-15 16:30           ` 'Jan Kiszka' via isar-users [this message]
2026-07-16  6:21           ` Anton Mikanovich
2026-07-15 11:33       ` 'Ulrich Teichert' via isar-users

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